Microsoft Wga And Other Crappy Updates

[ermi]

@splajn

Everything starts in the underground even artists comes from the underground do they automatically become less good artists or their music less good when given out on a label?

I think I see what you’re saying, but I don’t agree on the “everything” word.
I don’t think Christina Aguilera, Sean Paul, Britney Spears… started in the underground. At least not in the form they are presented to us now. I’d say they were picked by some marketing guys and “produced” by some industry-established formula to sell a certain amount of records. Those who buy their CDs probably buy them simply because that’s what they see on MTV. And the producers could push them on MTV because they have the (financial) power to do it.
Do you honestly think it would be a bad thing if those producers lost some money and we’d actually see some alternatives?

[AVB]

time to try linux. I’ll bive ubuntu a try.

[Foo (mr_mark_dollin)]

http://craphound.com/msftdrm.txt

[Blaster]

I’m not trying to defend Microsoft, but I don’t believe everything that is negatively written over them. If I could play my games and use my music apps under linux I would have done so long ago. Ubuntu rocks, but the drivers for my particular audiointerface don’t work well (don’t buy Tascam if you plan to use linux, in fact don’t buy Tascam at all… no 64bit windows drivers, no linux drivers). Sadly Wine development goes very slow… not yet an option.

@Kizzume

Over the past couple months, Microsoft has had a number of updates that flat-out make one’s machine run less efficiently. The ones released over the past two weeks have made my computer come to a crawl for many internet related applications, and after reading about what they did with WGA (windows genuine [dis]advantage) where they made it phone home and give info about my computer every day AND whenever I restarted, I became very disgruntled.
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I think this whole licensing thing is getting out of hand. I think what Sony did was mild compared to what Microsoft tried to pull off with their WGA, and the things that the music industry has in store for us, especially in conjunction with Windows Vista, is greed taken to an entirely new level. I understand that companies lose money from pirating, but the amount they charge certainly makes up for it, and you know damn well that if they succeed in getting people to stop pirating as much, they’re not going to pass that difference in costs of the products to consumers, in fact, they’ll make them cost more because of how much effort and money they spend on the anti-piracy techniques.

Then don’t install WGA… MS has already changed it btw. It’s not phoning home as often and eventually it will do that even less. I didn’t notice any change in my connection, so not sure if only WGA is the cause of that. I don’t blame MS for the WGA thing. For new software you download from the MS site you need WGA. There’s no problem if you got windows legally… a lot of people got windows with their pc’s and besides there are free alternatives.

I’m not pro-windows or pro-ms, but I don’t see anything wrong with MS activities. They need to make a living too. What do you think IT-companies do? they have even wackier licensing schemes. You have to pay a lot of money every year just to be able to use a program while most of the time nothing changes in those systems (note: this is just to be able to use the software, if you want support you have to pay even more).

@Kizzume

Did you know that it’s the music industry’s plans to make CD’s that can only be played so many times and then you have to pay a licence fee to play it more? Did you know that Microsoft is putting severely CRIPPLING digital rights management in Vista? Did you know that Microsoft is going to charge a monthly subscription fee for windows updates for server versions of their OS, and they’ll probably eventually do the same with the consumer editions? Did you know that Vista will make OpenGL an emulated layer running in DirectX so any OpenGL apps will come to a crawl so they can make DirectX look “superior”? Did you know that Vista takes 15gigs on the hard drive?

I agree DRM is evil and CD’s that I can’t play after X times without paying more money I won’t buy. I’ll download the stuff that I can’t get in a DRM free, open format. I’m sorry for the artist, but he/she has signed up for the wrong label. He’s responsible in this too. He/she has a choice in this too.

How can MS decide how crippling DRM is. I believe MS can supply a DRM system, but it shouldn’t be in anyones way when not used. The content has to make use of it first to become crippling :?

Monthly subscription fee? well, not sure how licensing would be different from the current schemes. Most of the time windows updates are not very important for servers because they often can’t be rebooted to install them . Service packs are more important…

I don’t think they’d to that with consumer versions. How can they? How many people will actually pay for that do you think? Doesn’t make sense from a business perspective. More windows computers will be victim of exploits. Bad marketing for MS and loss of even more customers.

OpenGL is now handled by video drivers for the graphics card. Don’t think that will change. Isn’t MS building in OpenGL emulation for those videocards that don’t have standard OpenGL support. I don’t understand this argument. Unless all graphics must be handled by DirectX, but then it wouldn’t make any sense: unfair competition, no 3rd party drivers, lawsuits, etc.

Vista 15GB? probably when you have everything installed. With http://www.nliteos.com/ you can strip everything you don’t need. Most laptop harddrives are still under 100GB, how are they gonna sell this if you have to use a tenth to almost half of the harddrive for just the OS?

@Kizzume

The past couple days I’ve been working with Linux again because I’m so frustrated with the way things are starting to look. I’d also like to re-install windows on my windows drive and make it have no access to the internet and not get ANY windows updates so I can keep it running efficiently. Even service pack 2 did a number on efficiency.

Unfortunately, Linux is also the most frustrating operating system to work with because of all the things that have to be done by hand just to get things working, but I’m hoping in the end it will be worth it. I tell you, if I could afford a mac right now and was willing to pay 2 times the price for the same hardware, I’d proabably give my Windows machine away.

As mentioned in earlier posts, have you tried Ubuntu? The forums are quite good too and should help you out with anything that doesn’t work first time. There are also some nice starter guides on how you should get your system up and running and some nice threads about which software to get.