New Song (with Voice!)

liveforever.mp3

well this is the first time i got some voice to put over a track, and i’m quite pleased :).

please me tell what you think.

it’s “vocal forge” vsti, and between the song has been re-masterized, it sounded a bit too metal/open in the first release.

updated for those interested.

Great for a first try with vocals. The intro is great, but I think you should drop the synth that comes in at 55 secs or so further back into the mix. I like how the vox are kind of cuddled in with everything else, but that synth has to be tamed! Sounds like a fun VSTi. :)

it sounds false*

  • = expressionless, emotionless, and overly simplistic. you succeeded in making a 3:47 song with only 2 notes on the chord progression. good job.

hahaha, weak taunt.
go shave that beard, doesn’t look good nowadays.

i love my beard, it keeps me warm at night :)

hehe, bit hot right now to seek warmth :).

Please never comment on my future progressive techno-traxx. :P

Listened to it, and I have to agree with io, it’s a nice idea but there’s something with the echoing of vocals, synth and pads that makes it sound a bit messy. I liked the vocals, but that’s like saying I liked a couple of loops in ejay, hehe…

And the intro made me think of 2 Unlimited’s “No Limit”! Made a intro that sounded like “Sexy Boy” by Air without even thinking of that track. Ah well. Happens.

From 0:27-0:53 to the progression feels really good, I’d add a breakdown and remove the basspads at the 0:54- part, I don’t feel any lift there at all even though the vocals indicate that.

Descent for a test-track, but you did way better with the other track you presented, asking for original vocals.

after listening again i tend to agree with what you said, will help me for future tracks ;)

The beat, and in turn the track as a whole, lacks power. That’s really the only thing that struck me. Otherwise, if pressed to assign 1 word to this track, it would be “generic”.

i know that, it was the aim, i didn’t seek too do anything weird or whatsoever, i’m trying to approach the “generic” music style, curious to see if it’s doable with a computer & renoise only :).

Making generic tracks is quite useful, actually. :)

Not every produced track has to be a massive piece of “art”, sometimes it’s just practice, nice to see somebody who understands that, glad I could help!

I agree, some people get caught up in being too generic, others get caught up in it not being ‘art’ enough. Just make music you like I say. :D

Yes you are. j/k… ;)

I love the ‘art’, hence my ambient stuff. Then I also love the ‘ooh, dat’s kool and phun & practice’, hence my electro/nintendostuff & Prodigy-remixes that I never release. :P

I do tracks never meant to be anything than practice in either beat or melody, then there seldomly come things I concider worthwhile and I stick to. But I never delete anything, even if it’s generic as hell, because I might get a spark of good idea from it.

Tracks like the one Sun posted here sounds like something I’d do for practice, as the vocals are pre-made, it’s not ‘his’ composition in that way, but a nice way to test out if the sound gets right. And he got the feedback he wanted, and is for that happy. I think too many people in general post a bit too many tracks that shouldn’t be concidered much more than practice, but think of them as massive art-pieces comparable with pro releases, and get hurt when very few people are impressed.

Some time ago, me included.

Then again, the quality level on the RNS board is quite high. :)

I fully understand the fine distinction between what is “generic” in music, and what is “art”. In fact, I believe that many times, that distinction isn’t so very clear cut and easy to make - I can think of several songs that are sort of “generic” in their pop appeal, but I still feel are artful.

In this case, there’s really nothing in sun’s track that appeals to me. It’s not really a genre thing either - I enjoy many different types of styles of music, and even in genres I do not enjoy, I can still tell if something is “good music” or not, as I think we all can.

“Live Forever” overall just seems a bit generic in that nothing really perks my interest and makes me want to continue listening. On a technical level (as I mentioned before), the beat is extremely weak, which I feel is inappropriate for this style. The kick barely moves my woofers. The synths and stuff really offer nothing new and fresh, and the melodies played aren’t very memorable. In short, I feel that even for a generic and popish genre, this isn’t very well executed.

I suppose I’m somewhat tired of everybody kissing everybody’s ass around here. I rarely see any real negative comments, or comments that actually describe a dislike for a song. Please feel free to go back and check out my posts and rip my stuff if you wish … In fact, I embrace it.

me too, man. that’s what i posted on my ctgmusic profile, and all i have gotten is ass kissing this week since i was trying to get exposure by being reviewer of the week

sun, i did some research on that voicedesigner program, and it appears that all it is is a kontakt sampler with a bunch of samples of songs that people have already sung, intros, verses, choruses, etc … … i had some words to put here but i will just leave it at no comment…

yep that’s it, pretty limited isn’t it.

although i don’t see why you say “no comment” as if i should feel guilty of something ? or maybe i misunderstood…

music is not about technicalities anymore, something we long looked for in the tracker world (omg how did he got that effects), it’s about the end results, whether you use arpegio, sampled voice, drumkit, whatever, music creation has become much more simplier so you can focus on what matter most that is the music itself and not the technical things arounds it.

i think it’s a good change, but i guess you do not agree.

using someone else’s entire vocal song and then producing your own stuff around it, yet calling the final product your own… i fail to see the point in that. i mean especially since thousands of other people are using that same program, and writing the exact same song … doesn’t that make you feel kinda cheap?

I/O and sun: are the vocalists credited in the software?

I mean … are they truly acapellas from already released songs? I did a remix of Bounty Killer’s “Fed Up”, for example. I called it “Bounty Killer - Fed Up (sonus remix)”. If, however, that same vocal was part of a larger library of vocals, and by purchasing that library I am purchasing rights to use that in my music, then I see no reason to call it anything but your own work. Still, I see your point I/O … but from a sampler’s perspective like my own, that’s not a really big deal.