esaruoho - please make paketti for renoise 3.0
I cannot work without those IT key bindings anymore ;(
Hi, could you attach the image to the forum?
Hi chm, could you detail which portions of Paketti you are missing on Renoise 3.0? I recently installed Renoise3.0 to this machine that I used to make Paketti with, and am eager to give it a whirl.
So far the most major issue is that if you have the Instrument Browser detached, the F2,F3,F4,F11 functions go completely out the window and just give errors. Another, is, that while Alt-D/CMD-D (double selection-amount) is great for the pattern editor, what about the phrase editor? Iâm not entirely sure how to proceed with this.
If youâre only using specific portions, and only on the pattern editor, it should be fairly easy to do you a R3 update, otherwise Iâll have to really think about priority (to prefer Pattern Editor over Phrase Editor or vice versa â or even to go the route of having different shortcuts for Phrase Editor as opposed to Pattern Editor â which could get very hairy and result in poor workflow performance).
Anyway, Iâll see how much of Paketti can nowadays compile in Renoise3, most of it seems to have gone directly out the window with the GUI changes and API changes.
Iâd like to give it a shot tho. Anyone, please chime in and suggest something.
Sorry I canât find it, I think it was just a list of available commands that could be turned on or off. I know a bit more about making lua tools than I did back then, If I was to do this I would suggest you just have a checkbox for every available function. Activating a checkbox would then insert a new menu or kb shortcut in the settings, this would probably be the easiest to implement.
Hi guys, I just downloaded the version from Tools.renoise.com and will now get the version that I have lying on my external harddrive â then itâs time to compare these pieces, see what was missing from the âofficially released 2.8 versionâ, then see if thereâs a way of creating a renoise 2.8 AND a renoise 3.0 version (is it possible?), and to hopefully slap together the internal version and the released version and hopefully add some sensible stuff to the pattern/phrase editors.
itâs probably gonna take a while tho, so I was thinking of just pushing out a really stripped down âImpulseTrackerâ-version, so if any of you have pressing shortcuts you really need for renoise 3.0, please let me know asap.
Ok, Iâve restarted this a few times now, but third time is the charm.
Again, if there are specific shortcuts that you need from Paketti, please chime in. Iâll start with the IT shortcuts, from scratch. Gutting the whole Paketti. After this, Paketti will be R3 ONLY.
is work still being done for r3?
is work still being done for r3?
Hi, I tweak it on and off. I restarted it from scratch. Hence all the questions of âwhat do you need for the first R3 versionâ - which I didnât really get any answers to.
So, what would you like for the first Alpha R3 build? Iâve mostly been focusing on integrating the phrase editor features, but since it is a bit hairy (to say the least), the first version might not have any Phrase editor stuff.
For starters:
It would be cool if it would (again) include the keyboard shortcuts âmove to next effect columnâ
and especially the keyboard shortcuts for the loopmodes in the sample-editor. (forward/backward/pingpong)
Theese were very helpful to me.
(On a sidenote: Maybe you can hack the Modulation and Effect Sets/Chains, so that we can have keyboard shortcuts for next/prevs on theese as well.)
For starters:
It would be cool if it would (again) include the keyboard shortcuts âmove to next effect columnâ
and especially the keyboard shortcuts for the loopmodes in the sample-editor. (forward/backward/pingpong)
Theese were very helpful to me.
(On a sidenote: Maybe you can hack the Modulation and Effect Sets/Chains, so that we can have keyboard shortcuts for next/prevs on theese as well.)
Hi, okay, to start off, a few questions for clarification.
When thereâs one effect column displayed, should the âmove to next effect columnâ âunhideâ a 2nd effect column - so that if you press it on effectcolumn1 with only 1 effect column shown, pressing the key will show up effectcolumn2 and move to effectcolumn2, and so on?
loopmodes in sample-editor, should they only affect the sample that is currently shown, or all samples in the instrument?
can you tell a little bit more about the modulation effect set chain next/prev - is that for switching between the displays (a key to go from mod->effect set/chain->mod), or for actual âmouse selectionâ?
Hi, sorry for the late reply, was travelling.
- About the âmove to next effect columnâ thing: Good question. I am not sure how Paketti handled that one in the old version. In my case I would rather not
unhide another (empty) one, that wouldnât make too much sense, as the power of that shortcut was
additional speed in navigating the colums. Also when I remember correctly, that how the shortcut worked in the first place. I think it even skipped note colums inbetween effect colums on different tracks,
so you could move from effect column to the next without stopping on notecolums. But I am not sure about that one. Would need to reinstall 2.8 to check this, but that would make a lot of sense speed-wise, wouldnt it?
- Loopmodes for sure only should affect the currently shown sample. Thats the most practical. If you have a sample set, especially bigger kits, you wouldnât want to change all of them at once.
My main use for this was for example when browsing through the AKFW single cycle waveforms. When you load one of theese, the loop setting âresetsâ to no loop.
So I had a macro, that loaded the next sample and then executed the paketti âloop forwardâ command in one go.
Browsing single cycle waveforms without this feature is nonsense, because it takes way too long to
always manually enable loop mode when loading the next waveform. And this has of course far more useful applications than this example.
- Modulation Effect chain. Well, my thoughtprocess is something like this:
When you have, lets say, three different modulation chains for your instrument, and that Instrument has 5 different samples.
Now you want to try out all three of theese modulation chains on all 5 samples of the instrument to hear which oneâs best.
A keyboardshortcut to cycle through this assignment would speed this up tremendously. (Instead of what you have to do now,
which is selecting and clicking the radiobutton)
Same thing would apply for effectchains as well.
So I do not think about switching displays (you can do that already) also not for mouse selection. I hope you understand my gibberishâŚ
By the way, when I might add something:
What until now no one did (AFAIK) is an equivalent to the âedit step - move to next row with noteâ command,
but for the fx column. (i.e. edit step - move to next row with pattern effect) which would be uber-useful.
Maybe itâs that hard to do, I dont know.
Best,
tL.
- Loopmodes for sure only should affect the currently shown sample. Thats the most practical. If you have a sample set, especially bigger kits, you wouldnât want to change all of them at once.
My main use for this was for example when browsing through the AKFW single cycle waveforms. When you load one of theese, the loop setting âresetsâ to no loop.
So I had a macro, that loaded the next sample and then executed the paketti âloop forwardâ command in one go.
Hi tL One! I finally came across these things. I can confirm that Loop-mode setting works with the (currently unreleased) Paketti version that is compatible with Renoise.
It works the same way it used to work, i.e. whichever sample is visible in the sample editor has itâs setting changed. even if the sample editor is not visible.
Iâll try and look at your other things but I just had to come and confirm this. The next one would be to look at the effect column switching, as that should still be simple.
Iâm guessing itâs okay if it only works in the Pattern Editor, right, and not the Phrase Editor? Having it work in the Phrase Editor would be a right hassle. Especially the way the current Phrase Editor LUA Api switches are done. (i.e. not done)
- About the âmove to next effect columnâ thing: Good question. I am not sure how Paketti handled that one in the old version. In my case I would rather not
unhide another (empty) one, that wouldnât make too much sense
Ok, continuing on this one. I can verify that the 8 shortcuts that decide how many effect columns are shown (1 to 8) do work:
at least in the phrase editor.
Iâm gonna go look through all the commented code I have in the V2->V3 Paketti switch and see where that âmove to effect column xâ is at.
EDIT : âSwitch Effect Column/Note Columnâ shortcut works a-ok. and doesnât shoot errors on Sends / Masters (at least to the user, but of course in the terminal )
is work still being done for r3?
Yes, Iâve decided to reboot the whole thing yet again.
This time with hopefully daily updates.
Rebootv2 - still continuing
(Iâve also optimized the repetitive keyshortcuts to be created with for instead of having repetitions)
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ImpulseTracker Stop (F8)(keyboard)
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ImpulseTracker Alt-D (double-selections per multiplication of current selection)(keyboard)
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ImpulseTracker Alt-L (select whole channel, then all channels) (keyboard)
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ImpulseTracker Alt-U (unselect selection) (keyboard)
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ImpulseTracker Next Pattern / Previous Pattern during playback (keyboard)/(midi)
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Select Specific Track (keyboard)
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Computer Keyboard Velocity Slider (MIDI) + keyboard: Vel +1 +10 -1 -10
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Capture Nearest Instrument & Octave (keyboard)
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Joule Pattern Doubler (doubles pattern content so 64 row pattern -> 128 row pattern)(keyboard)
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Protman: Double Select Pattern / Double Select current Column Only(keyboard)
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Protman: Set Selection to Current Instrument(keyboard)
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Protman: Shrink Selection Content (keyboard)
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Protman: Double Selection Content(keyboard)
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Protman: ImpulseTracker PageUp/PageDn(keyboard)
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Protman: Set Note Octave to 0-9(keyboard)
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dblue Expand Pattern(keyboard)
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dblue Shrink Pattern(keyboard)
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dblue Expand Pattern + Resize pattern(keyboard)
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dblue Shrink Pattern - Resize pattern(keyboard)
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syflom/esaruoho: BPM/LPB writer to Master(keyboard)
-Clone and Shrink Pattern to LPB/2 (writes LPB / BPM to Master)(keyboard)
-Clone and Expand Pattern to LPB*2 (writes LPB / BPM to Master)(keyboard)
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Clone Current Pattern to Current Sequence(keyboard)
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Set Pattern Length to 4,8,16,32,64,128,256,512(keyboard)/(midi)
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Display Effect Columns 1-8(keyboard)
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Display Note Columns 1-12(keyboard)
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Set Global LPB to 1-16, 24,32,48,64,128,256 (keyboard)
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Set Phrase LPB to 1-16, 24,32,48,64,128,256 (keyboard)
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Increase Quantization by +1 (keyboard)
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Decrease Quantization by -1 (keyboard)
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Duplicate Instrument and Select New Instrument (keyboard)
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Hide currently visible, current track External Editors (VST/AU) (plugins) (keyboard)
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Set Current Sample Loop State Off,Forward,Backward,PingPong (keyboard)
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Open External Editor for Instrument (keyboard)
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Switch between Note / Effect Columns (keyboard)
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Record Quantization On / Off (midi)
Reboot V2 - still continuing
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ImpulseTracker F5 (play from start) (keyboard)
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ImpulseTracker F2 (focus to Pattern Editor, second press hides everything (instrument box, disk browser, track scopes, pattern matrix). Third press brings it back (keyboard)
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ImpulseTracker F2 Mini (only pattern editor, everything hidden) (keyboard)
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EZGrooveSettings (4 midiknobs for setting Global Groove Settings)(midi)
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ImpulseTracker F3 (brings Sample Editor to front, shows channel scopes, third press brings FX to front and shows phase etc)(keyboard)
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ImpulseTracker F11 (shows Mixer, second press opens automation + pattern matrix)(keyboard)
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ImpulseTracker F12 (shows Master) (keyboard)
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Paketti Record+Follow On/Off toggle (keyboard)
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Paketti Record+Follow On/Off toggle for Phrase Editor (keyboard)
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Increase BPM by +1 (keyboard)
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Decrease BPM by -1 (keyboard)
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(Pattern) Set selected-channel Delay +1/-1/+10/-10 (keyboard)/(midi)
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(Phrase)Set selected-channel Delay +1/-1/+10/-10 (keyboard)/(midi)
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EFXWrite: Arpeggio Xy +1 / -1(keyboard)
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EFXWrite: Arpeggio xY +1 / -1(keyboard)
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EFXWrite: Vibrato Xy +1 / -1(keyboard)
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EFXWrite: Vibrato xY +1 / -1(keyboard)
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EFXWrite: Retrig Xy +1 / -1(keyboard)
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EFXWrite: Retrig xY +1 / -1(keyboard)
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EFXWrite: Tremolo Xy +1 / -1(keyboard)
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EFXWrite: Tremolo xY +1 / -1(keyboard)
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EFXWrite: Cut Volume Xy +1 / -1(keyboard)
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EFXWrite: Cut Volume xY +1 / -1(keyboard)
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Uncollapse/Collapser (midi/menu/keyboard)
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CapsLock replacement ( âOffâ on/off)(keyboard)
-Set Current Sample to Forward Loop(keyboard)
-Set Current Sample to Backward Loop(keyboard)
-Set Current Sample to Pingpong Loop(keyboard)
-Set Current Sample to No Loop(keyboard)
- Record On / Follow Off - shortcut (keyboard)
sweet!
Added
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Enable/Disable Column Cycling Keyjazz (1-12 channels) (keyboard)
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Generate Note Delays in Column (visible-note-column-amount-dependent) (keyboard)
I miss â EazyMaximizeSpectrum â feature. It is soon easter
Is it still possible to code it for v3.1 ?
What I do now to get this effect is that I make Renoise two times bigger vertically than the screen, so then I can scale the spectrum more down to fill the screen.
âEaster Egg -modeâ U get it ?