New tool (3.4.3): Piano Roll Studio v6.3 build 564 (May 2024)

Hey Raul.

I can understand that, but wouldn’t the note in the title bar be enough in the full version? …but it’s okay, I can live with that. :grinning:

I already suspected that it was due to the API. Nevertheless, it is annoying, maybe the Renoise developers can implement this!?

Mouse warping, completely logical … oh man, I had totally forgotten this option, sorry!

Oh yes, keep up your great work! :+1:

I requested it myself from the main developer. It was never included.

It’s about being able to remember the top left corner, so that the creator of the tool can have control depending on the size of the monitor the user is using. But this is more complex, because it is necessary to examine the user’s image monitors.

Okay, strange. This behavior of windows is actually standard.

hello,
i just download the tool and run it.
unfortunately with a problem:
after start, the window is too big, empty and i can’t do anything.
the assigned key Shift < works.
what can i do to explore and play with the tool?

i use the latest renoise free.
the latest PRS as demo.
i am on fedora 38 linux.
scrren resolution is 1920x1024 on 15" laptop.

Regards

Hi how are things? Happy new year!
By default, the newly installed PRS window has a surface size less than 1920x1024 pixels.
Since it is the demo version, is it possible that you have used it longer than the time limited by this version?

Try uninstalling the tool. Then try installing it again. Make sure to turn the “OFF” button to “ON” and play again. The window size should be smaller now (window size is configurable). You also have a user manual available to check things out there. Enjoy it!

hello,
happy new year for you!
unfortunately nothing changed.
the demo nag window tells to edit window size in the preference of PRS. Thats funny, because i can’t access it.
btw. i don’t see a ON and OFF button. Only OK.
yes i know the manual, but can’t find an option to configure this.

Did you do the 2 steps, or just the second one? It looks like you have the window “locked” because the time has expired, since it is a demo version. Make sure to completely uninstall the tool before installing it again.

i did uninstall it.
then close renoise and start again.
then drop the PRS file again.

i discovered something worth to mention:
after running renoise in window mode (no fullscreen), PRS starts and i could see the up area and the pianoroll.
but the window is too big on the right side and downside.

and in windowmode renoise is too small. i cannot resize it to my screen dimensions.

PRS starts at 1440x900 pixels and should always display its top left corner on any monitor size (that corner is the reference).

What scaling are you using in Renoise? If the scaling is 150% or higher, all tool windows will take this scaling as well.

You can press the “OFF” button to switch to “ON”, and then turn the wheel on Oct and Lns to resize directly. If you want to force the window to change to an even smaller one:

  1. Preferences (mechanical wheel button)
  2. In GUI Window Config press the 800x600px button (Profile 4). This is a panel that allows you to reconfigure and save different window sizes, also depending on the scaling you are using.

thank you fornow.
i will test it tomorrow and come back.

@Raul

Hello mate! Some questions to you.

  1. How fluid is the handling of your tool in equation to the “Simple Pianoroll Tool”? Is it better?
  2. Work it same condition and same fluid with Mouse Warping option activated in Renoise config?
  3. And if 1. and 2. are yes, it there are a testversion of your suite?

Btw. Much respect and thanks for your contribution to the Renoise Community and make such a tool.

happy tracking :slight_smile:

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Hi @NPC1, how are you?
Haven’t you tried the PRS demo version yet?

First of all, congratulations to the creator of this tool. Constructing some kind of piano roll is no easy task, and there is much merit in just trying. I say this because it seems that many people forget. Yes, there are also Lua tools in Renoise, and most requests on the forums can be covered by Lua tools.

If you mean the construction of the tool, PRS is better built for better flow by leveraging the API. User management and control is another story. PRS is controlled differently. You have to learn it. If learning something new is a barrier, don’t use it. Sometimes we acquire vices or habits from other tools that prevent us from becoming familiar with other tools with the same purpose.

No. As I mentioned before PRS is better built. This should offer a better user experience, as long as you disable textures and enable mouse warping.

The problem with Simple Pianoroll is that its base is a “mesh of buttons”. Conceptually it is an erroneous design that conditions its use. I learned a long time ago that this is not the right way to build these types of tools.

You have the demo version to try the PRS. You also have an instruction manual. It’s quite long (sorry), but the PRS required it.

Don’t expect the PRS to be controlled the same way as the Simple Pianoroll. In fact they are very different tools. PRS requires handling the CTRL ALT SHIFT commands to work. If you get used to its controls, it doesn’t get any faster than that.

Ok Raul, thx for your detailed answer. Indeed i dont have testet PRS till now, because for me it shows very big and complex. Sadly what you write seem to confirm my concerns. I personally prefer light, visual and intuitive approach of Tools. Always when i see some screenshots of PRS the amount of controls, checkboxes and buttons make me fear in some way. But anyway, i would still like to test it out. Have you a download link for the Demoversion for me?

happy tracking :slight_smile:

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You have it in the first comment of this thread:

Don’t worry. The default configuration is enough to get started. Additionally, you have many customization options.

Ahh ok, i forgot that i had postet in PRS Channel. My fault, sorry mate. I will check it out. Thanks Raul! :slight_smile:

Gran trabajo Raul!!!
Felicidades!

Thanks you @eulogic! :grinning:

Get this thing man you won’t regret it :100:

Piano Roll Studio - Ulneiz Mod

Making noise with Renoise and the crazy one with the Piano Roll Studio using my nickname :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Enjoy it!

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Piano Roll Studio 6.3 has been published!

I am pleased to announce the release of version 6.3.564 of Piano Roll Studio. This new version is maintenance and improvement. Although it is not a major version, it is just as important…

All new features are listed in the Update History (first comment on this thread).

This new version 6.3 of the PRS among other minor things it is the the last version to support API v6.1. As you may know if you follow the Renoise forums, Renoise is in development for a new version, which among other things includes major improvements for the upcoming API v6.2.

The API is a set of code instructions that Lua tool programmers use to create them so that they “understand” with Renoise.

With the new capabilities, the next version of Piano Roll Studio will only support the new API v6.2. It is for this reason that I have preferred to release a small final update for API v6.1.

Enjoy it!

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