Pattern Editing ?

[Braz]

Hi, I come from IT and then Modplug Tracker.
I’m really impressed by Renoise but the pattern edition is quite boring for me.

Left mouse button : i don’t understand why you can’t go directly to the row you’re left clicking on ?? arrows are too slow !!!

Track selection and Pattern selection : in Modplug Tracker you could select an entire track or pattern… I haven’t found this very useful feature in Renoise

Note Instrument change : if I want to change a full track’s instrument ie : change the hh in a dedicated track, will I really have to change the instrument note by note ???
Perhaps could I change the instrument’s range in the instrument editor but I prefer to keep my samples at the same number…
I would enjoy to press a button ‘set to current Instr.’ for setting a selected area

Please answer me and tell what do you think about my claims because I really enjoyed discovering renoise but the slow pattern edition prevents me to use it really

[splajn]

There are shortcuts to copy/cut/paste a whole pattern and a whole track.

shift+F3 cut track
shift +F4 copy track
shift +F5 paste track

crtl+F3 cut pattern
ctrl+F4 copy pattern
ctrl+F5 paste pattern

I agree with the left mousebutton…

But I think there are lots of powerful things you have not yet discovered, because then you would not let the left mousebutton stop you.

[Braz]

cool, thx for the shortcuts, i haven’t seen them but they will be very useful !
so what about the instruments ? is there a special trick or technique to edit several instrument of an area at the same time ?

one good thing could be to let the user change events of mouse as it is all ready possible for keyboard, so that everybody will have what he desires.

[tnt97]

as a general rule: read the manual before asking, it may help.

[DJ_J-R]

Than I also have another suggestion, also a difference between Renoise and IT/Modplug and (parially) FT2: When entering volume/panning/effect data, the cursor skips an edit step after typing one character. This is really annoying when you want the editor to skip when you have entered the complete number.

Set editstep to zero “0”

JR

[Johan]

I am not sure, but I think that FT2 had an option to choose between skipping after a single digit, and skipping after a complete number. Such a feature might be a nice addition to Renoise

Agree. To simplify it a bit there could be an option in the config between skipping after each fx digit entry or skipping after the rightmost fx digit entry (which is basically the same as a complete number, right?)

Another suggestion (probably mentioned before, I think):
Go to next/previous row (i.e. up/down buttons) but with the current editstep value. Best realized by two new keyboard shortcuts I guess.

With all these keyboard shortcuts I also often find it hard to find the shortcut I want to edit. So I thought of a way to search the possible shortcuts. Then I realized this is easiest done by opening the KeyboardMapping.xml file. So a button in config/keyboard which opens KeyboardMapping.xml in notepad would be a quick way to do this… Any other ideas?

And a final suggestion: I mentioned this sometime before… I really want to delete panning and volume along with the note as I almost always use a MIDI keyboard which enters volume. To delete notes is a bit tedious when you have to first delete the note and then the first volume digit and finally the last one. Alt+delete works sometimes, but when you only want to delete one note and not the entire column it’s not possible. A new keyboard shortcut would solve this as well (delete note+volume+panning).

[splajn]

That delete note+volume+panning is great, I think it should be set as default!