Like connor is saying, It’s proper audio routing that we want/need.
Sidechaining compression is just one of the possibilities with that.
I for one think it’d be great if this gets added.
indeed. with audio routing to VSTs it shouldn’t matter whether you’re routing audio into the ‘sidechain input’ of VST A, or the ‘special anal fx input’ of VST B.
+1 for advanced audio routing.
A break from the stereo paradigm might go hand in hand with it as well. Currently all tracks in Renoise are always stereo, no true mono tracks, no easy way to do 5.1 sound or similar.
Indeed.
It would be nice if we could route any VST/VSTi audio output to any other VST/VSTi audio input.
Topic title adjusted.
Left the original title in there though.
^ thanks vV, much more appropriate to the discussion now.
i’ve been asking for this since ehm… years? 
There are workarounds of course, but it’s not quite the same. The compressor/filter may have a particular envelope follower algorithm with distinct sonic characteristics that you want to capture (knowing cytomic’s attention to detail this will probably be the case with those plugs).
More generally, I’d really like to see modular routing. Yes, in principle you can get the functionality with splitters and sends, but the lack of visual feedback limits the routing complexity that your brain can deal with. I had a few comments on why audiomulch is great for this here - Hello | Support, help and ideas | Forums | AudioMulch
for an easiest implementation, you can have a look at Reaper implementation :
- each track can have any number of input channels
- each track can have any number of output channels
- for each VST/VSTi, you can affect any VST/VSTi output channel to any track channel
The “new” renoise send device would allow to send any channel on the signal chain to any other channel of another track.
Easiest perhaps, but I don’t think it’s ideal. With send channels you can already almost get anything to anything routing and bussing. This might give you a little bit more flexibility with those plugins having extra sidechain inputs, but it doesn’t get you all that much more.
I’d much rather have fully modular routing. The visual feedback means that you are no longer limited to routings you can keep track of in your head and that makes a world of a difference. The visual feedback frees you to think of the whole routing holistically as a “system” instead of individual effects chains and individual channels.
Of course, who knows how much has to happen under the hood for this to happen. I’ll dream though!
I know. I also come from Audiomulch & Buzz, so I get your point.
Anyway, for a first increment/iteration, the Reaper solution might allow some proper audio routing to plugins.
Better than nothing!
Everybody here is talking about audio routing, but also midi routing would be nice to have, specially with arpeggios.
Missing this feature too!
I wish Renoise would have the support of multichannel routing for VST plugins. Why it may be needed? For example, it may be useful if we want to send stereo streams from two different tracks to Voxengo SPAN (that supports up to 8 input and 8 output channels) and see the comparision of both tracks’ frequency response.
Also useful for stereo vocoders
This thread’s a little over a year old…is this sort of audio routing possible in Renoise now?
Nope. Although I’m not sure what VST exist that have more than a stereo input, eg a sidechain input?
Compressors and filters both can have sidechain inputs – Cytomic Glue & Drop, FabFilter Volcano & Pro-Q, etc etc.
My only issue with the signal follower (much as I love it) is that, unlike a straight audio send/receive situation, you can only send one value at a time.
So you can’t target a parameter from several sources (well, you can but only 3 via the hydra)
Signal follower is cool and very useful, but the point of real audio routing is that the plugins often have special behavior around the incoming audio. Filtering it, envelope following with slop, whatever. Things that you can do in renoise without the plugins, yeah, but the plugins have their own character and tools for accomplishing some of this stuff.