sorry for my misunderstanding earlier. i tried that and saved the only ssf’s, no ensembles. it reloaded fine. but this is what’s weird: i saved the ssf’s in the same folder where the xrns was. the xrns icon disappeared after saving the ssf’s. it was there because i searched my folder and could reopen it via the search. i refreshed the folder and it re-appeared.
Not sure what the problem is. Snapshots are saved with the ensemble so if you don’t save it the snapshots wont be saved.
Using Renoise 2.7 and Reaktor 5.1.5.002:
- Open new Renoise song.
- Load existing ensemble.
- Uncheck “save this instance automatically”
- Save a snapshot
- Save Renoise song
- Reload Renoise song
- Reaktor instance is still there, but the snapshot is of not there, which is expected.
Yes you can save individual snapshotfiles without saving the ensembles , just click on edit , create new bank , then save bank , this saves the bank only ( only a few kilobytes ) and not the ensembles ,
procedure for the bug to appear ,1.load reaktor
2.load mulitple ensembles .uncheck save ensembles automatically
3.create new snapshotbanksfile ( separate file ) for each ensemble
4.save new snapshotbanks as a separate file ( not the ensembles )
5.save and reload renoise
6;In my case reaktor loads without the gui of the ensembles ( renoise giving a gui error ) ) but still able to play the ensembles
The only save bank I found was under snapshots tab -> bank drop down list. Using this it worked for me (had to reload the bank manually of course). But I haven’t updated Reaktor yet so maybe this is the difference.
so the ensembles gui show up after reloading , even without saving the ensembles before ?
p.s.How do you disable the red disk icon from being highlighted when changes are made
I am using reaktor 5.5.1.
Yes, I get the gui back. Of course the ensemble I get back is the one I loaded, any changes get lost since its not saved.
when creating a new snapshotfile ,the disk icon turns RED , how can I get it back to its original state without saving an ensemble
If I remember correctly there was an option that reaktor asked what to do when changes were made , I gues I ticked ’ do no show this message again ’ …thus
I don’t see any diskicon at all here. When you say that gui disappears, do you mean that you have an empty ensemble or that there is no gui drawn at all for reaktor?
the ensemble is there because I can trigger it , ther is just no gui , just the empty reaktor default ’ drag a file from the browser here ’ screen
So to clear things up , even when you don’t save the ensembles but create a new snapshotfile and save this( the new snapshotfile) instead , does your disk icon turns red ?
Now when you save the song and reload it ( DO NOT SAVE THE ENSEMBLES ONLY THE NEWLY CREATED SNAPSHOTFILES) , does reaktor appears with al the ensembles or just one , and with guis?
Haven’t found any disk icon.
Reaktor appear with exactly the same ensemble that I initially loaded, regardless of snapshot file. There is only one ensemble per instance of reaktor.
yeah I allready did , but they aren’t verry responsive over there .
I know this is not renoise related ( at first I thought it was ) but since there are some reaktor users on this forum I might ass well discuss it here , hope you don’t mind
You cant use snapshotfiles to save an ensemble. If you only change values for sliders and knobs and keep the old ensemble intact you can use the method you tried. If you change anything else (like loading new instruments) you have to save an instance of the ensemble together with the song.
disk icon appears when a new snapshot file is created or the inner structure of an ensemble is modified .
Could you just follow these steps carefully please .
1.load reaktor
2. insert multiple ensembles
3.click on the header bar for the first ensemble , go to the snapshot settings and click on 'edit ’ , a dropdown menu appears …now select new bank , the disk icon now should be turned red ( indicating that a change has been made
4.insert or create a new snapshot , choose edit again and select 'save bank ’ …choose a destinantion ,this will only save the bank and not the ensemble
5.do the same for the next ensemble
6.Do not click the 'disk icon
7.save the renoise song
8.load the song …are all the ensembles there ???
Here is the renoise file , just load it , reaktor contains the lazerbass ensemble but there is no gui , you also have to turn on reaktor power button …
You don’t understand what I mean , I am perfectly aware that saving snapshots doesn’t save ensembles .
I save snapshots and write down the ensembles I use ( renoise note editor ) and then load them separataly and then import the snapshots files because It saves up disk space
Ok. I don’t know how to solve the problem then, unfortunately.
could you just download the renoise file above , and let me know what happens ?
thanks
I see what you’re saying.
I downloaded your file and had an unpleasant surprise.
Upon opening your file I got Fatal VST Plugin error.
When I opened Reaktor,(after OKing crashed VST) inside of Reaktor was no GUI, and when I draged in any ensemble there was nothing, invisible, only patches changed, according to which ensemble I used.
When I use Reaktor in Renoise, (before, testing, not your patch) I played a few notes, saved song, closed Renoise, re-opened Renoise, everything from Reaktor is there, even when I twisted pots, they got recorded…
Unfortunately I am completely new to Renoise, so my reply is to R5 only…, but whatever you’re doing to Reaktor, it doesn’t like it
thanks , so I am not the only one having this problem .
Reaktor works great when you are saving the ensembles for each session , but when you don’t and you made some changes ( like creating new snapshotsand then reload, ) you get this verry nasty bug .
Well I just have to save the ensembles within reaktor , which I F####N hate cause of the big filesize it consumes .
I reported this on the reaktor forum , but no real help there .
Correct me if I am wrong, doesn’t the function ‘plugin grabber’ do exactly that? After you extract your sound you close R5?
Is this how Renoise works? If you extract sound, you have it, but ‘dry’, if you want to tweak it you must keep the ensemble, (or any VST)?
I recorded Stephan V.'s TR-909x, (I loaded samples into the sample bank, it is empty when you down it) and spread BDs in octaves and the pitch control chooses samples/pitch at the same time. Pots moving, all midi got recorded…I saved it as a song and all is there…