Amen.
I also do everything in Renoise, though I kinda stick to wav samples and organizing them in folders, so Iām not as āinvestedā that way. But otherwise, Iām pretty sure without Renoise, I wouldnāt be making music. I mean, I derped around in FastTracker II, but just like I derped around with a digicam and didnāt get āintoā photography until I got a DSLR, it wasnāt until Renoise that I managed to make things I genuinely liked.
exactly. hope its just never finished. keep on developing it just for the love of this awesome creationā¦no rush, just keep doing it. Its like some tapestry or tibetan painting, they can take a whole lifetime to complete. Its great software. just spent the last two years cutting up breaks and still going. Im an old school sampler guy, everything just renoise, not really too much vst, and i think alot of the preprepared sample packs that you hear from ableton and maschine stuff like that sound too over processedā¦something not right. too glossy, too modernā¦its not like the dusty, homemade, crunchy imperfect things you can get going if you do all your sampling yourselfā¦sampling from vinyl and VHS, charity shop stuffā¦thats the real nice sound in my opinion and renoise is the perfect sampler sequencer for me at a cheap price. I probably will be lookng to get a nice vst or two when I finally finsh up these breaks, specifically an 808 like nepheton for layering with individual breaks hits making the perfect drum sound and also some kind of fat bass vst for big basslines to go with those nice crispy drums. cutting up these breaks is hardcoreā¦but have to get through itā¦ the 200 breaks download here on the forums was the greatest gift ever. someone recently posted 101s breaks and Declassified breaks as wellā¦cant wait to get em all choppedā¦ im on a missionā¦so hope renoise will never falter nor fade and keep on. its one of the best no need to stopā¦i tried abletonā¦not feeling all that double clicking in the pianorollā¦honestly renoise is better. hate it when people assume renoise or all trackers are something they can program themselves in a fortniteā¦that kind of arrogant attitude like āhey, i read something about an algorithm once, now im a programmer too, let me advise you on your 20 years of hardcore programming in C languages, by the way, whats a sampler?ā
@Garrett_Wang 'm with 'ya on that. Iām trying to go one step further in Renoiseās usage and using Renoise to generate all itās own samples. And it CAN! All of my sounds are primarily made in Renoise, unless itās not possible just canāt do it (FM/PM - not static waveforms). So, Iām hoping that we gain those few extra synthesis bits to just be able to do it all.
Simplified FM as a modulation source, because weāve already got AM and Ringmod. FM synthesis would be nice, but with a gentle touch, an FM modulator could give a wide variety of typical FM sounds to a sample. Another effect that would be fun is hyper-speed vibrato, just to have that really odd bzzzzz sound for fun! Great for droning pitches.
Real-time timestretch, because itās awesome. Iād like to have two forms: one utilizing the simplified Paulstretch found in Audacity for ambient sound-beds (I use the Rubberband method for this currently), and the other closer in style to (or exactly as) dblueās Glitch 2 - something we could input into the pattern sequencer. ??xy - x for amount of stretch, and y for length, in case you wanted to do a super stretch for a 16th note only. Using timestretch on field recordings is just awesome. To have it adjustable via modulation sourcesā¦holy cow.
Granular, because itās so useful for all sorts of things. Maybe something similar to The Mangle, because it does short and long grain processing. I was PMāing @danoise about a simplified version for micro-looping. There would be three things to modulate. Sample length, sample start time, and sample end time - much like that video I placed on the forum earlier of the Ultomaton: Figured out how to make a Sample Length for the Micro-Looper The Ultomaton has a small micro-looper that just does a very basic granular technique of random start/end/length. A small micro-looper for making various glitches and what not would be really fun! Yeah, we can kinda/sorta do it using the phrase sequencer, but something totally free from pattern control, and more work done with the LFO would be neat-o! Another sound-bed generator.
Finally, spectral - it sounds great and can make a bunch of really nice sounds.
All in Renoise to keep the processing down. We can do so much with this program already, just a few more modulation styles and weād be a sound-design playground - more complete that it already is. Whatever, I love Renoise, so nyah!
āhey, i read something about an algorithm once, now im a programmer too, let me advise you on your 20 years of hardcore programming in C languages, by the way, whats a sampler?ā
I love how every topic gets someone to post what he would like to see in renoise, regardless of topic.
There are only two kind of forum threads, and they are closely related. 1) Speculation threads, 2) feature requests. I consider this to be a thread of feature requests.
Relevant list:
Youāre right! 
I love to make requests!
the sooner you switch to bitwig ā¦the better youre life is going to be
just buy redux before making the switch
is that a joke or?
Nah, used Bitwig for a while, actually own the 8-track version as well. They added modular, though! Just doesnāt feel right to me. Neither does Reason anymore, and I used that for something like 17 years. Oh well. Now that Iāve gotten hooked in Renoise, Iām pretty happy. Itās got that Max/MSP sound that I love so much (dry/crisp/clear) and itās such a stable, easy-to-use midway point between coding and sequencing. With the addition of those few different types of synthesis to Renoise as native pluginsā¦ Iād be even more happy with it than I already am!
im joking hahaha np with renoise 
but i do feel the topic of the thread there was a time in 2017 when i got my license and this place was something entirely different very positive nice feedback and everyone seemed more interested in talk about actual music production that request for features etc !!
also we managed to pull together a competition at some point that was super nice !!!
some of you may even think why do this dude keeps posting music here and shit if he doesnāt use renoise anymore
and to me its really simple i have good friends here !! also other forums suck big time
Do you like the Bitwig Sampler?
The modulators are entertaining, but otherwise pfff
I would go there crazy without Redux
bro at first i was the same !!
i had to watch a few tuts on the official site but now i feel at home with the native sampler
in addition to regular playback mode you have
cycles mode (wavetable)
texture mode (granular stuff)
i even did a short tut about it
clear tutorial 
voice stack (4:45) i did not know so far ā¦
Do you know?
https://waveeditonline.com
my bitwig sampler default is a shitty gm-drum set
listened to a few midifiles, played bass
disillusionment started after replaced better drum sounds and try to panning sounds, it goes there only global for all voices
next: no midi-time-stretch (sequencer)
i like bitwig, now stable, does not need a large configuration, most of it goes fast
but that are missing basics, was already possible a long time ago with cubase, atari homecomputer and hardware samplers
thanks for the link
āā"āDo you know?
https://waveeditonline.comā""""
i mean for electronic music i think its the best daw right now ā¦there are a few missing features in the recording department like comping etc !! and the timestretchig its not as transparent as the complex modes in ableton or even reasonās time-stretch
but the huge amount of tools for sound design and the easy its to shift the UI to tackle any task ā¦
also with a dual display like i have right now ā¦brooooo so good
before using it i was chaging all the time ā¦between Renoise and Fl and Reason ā¦now i only have bitwig installed in my pc and Fl so i can use the fire but the rest ā¦gone
iirc to try and give an exception for you (it is tricky), I donāt think the infamous āFlat Earthā thread did: Any Flat Earth supporters or believers here? No mention of how the Renoise automation editing should be improved or the quality of the DSP/filters orā¦Wait! There is a mention of Renoise 4.2.4 in the year 2030. Oh well.
approval,
sound design does not so interest me
search groove in electronic, try and make errors a lot
bitwig is there ready to go,
less pulldown menus, big little / windows. 2 file browsers. several options to save configurations.
that looks overloaded and confuses me sometimes, nevertheless i m be faster as with other daw,s before
I saw an app once, you can wave your phone, generates electronica, I think I can make an app, saw an article about the algorithm-code one time, if I mention sounds impressive like really businessman and successful ways. Let me advise you on renoise, should have only finger swipe gesture to generate instant and I can use the programming like āhello worldā already since tueday so I will make renoise 4 its in my plans, maybe finish by next week. should be simperl
http://www.computoser.com/ could be argued it sounds better/is more clever than most of the stuff on say Soundcloud.
Hereās a work around for some of the parallel VST issues. Would be interesting to see how well it would pair up with doofers.