Recommend me headband headphones for home studio (100-200€)

much love too for the m50x they produce great results when you take the time to know them well

only thing i dont like since i own as well is that i get pretty tired (a bit of an ear annoyance) after a couple hours in the studio i think its because they dont cover my ears entirely :frowning: i dont use them as much lately but for at least 1 hour when mixing the sub and kick … and for another reference overall :slight_smile:

but i think they sound really good :slight_smile:

I wouldn’t over complicate it. Just train your ears to the phones. They don’t have to be super flat imo. Your ears are also not flat :wink: . The DT 770 are good phones. When choosing AT I would buy the ATH M40 instead of the 50. The M40 is much more neutral.

For loud volumes maybe an option is also the Sennheiser HD25.

Personally I prefer the Superlux HD668B over many other phones.

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i was expectingg them to be much more expensive here its 179$ on sweetwater music

For now, the Custom Studio are the ones I like the most. If there were a 250 ohm model, I would already have a candidate.

This model has the detachable cable, plush pads, and the sound is much flatter, it is not “V” like the DT770 PRO.

In addition, it has a regulator for the lower frequencies. It seems that the Beyers are famous for coloring or exaggerating the lower frequencies. Even exaggerate the high frequencies.

This model has been adjusted enough to sound flat, with the extra manually adjusting the low frequencies. It is € 46 more expensive than the DT 770 PRO.

I can’t find the inside dimensions of the pad or the internal height, so that the ears fit. I don’t want the ears to feel uncomfortable. Does anyone know the dimensions?

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You can NEVER go wrong with Audio Technica M50’s my friend! (Audio-Technica ATH-M50x) SY679

The cans are HUGE. Your ears will fit for sure as long you are not Benjamin Bluemchen.

:joy: Ok. I read in a forum that a person was bothered because the inner side face of the can touched his ear. Maybe he had a very open ear. My ears are medium sized. But just by looking at the pictures I am not sure of the actual size of these headphones. Sometimes the images cheat.

The Audio Technica seem smaller.

All beyerdynamics have a kind of peaky highs frequency range, like there are boosts that will aid with spatial impression but also make the highs quite intense. Not everyone likes that behaviour. Yes it will be unpleasant if you have sensitive hearing and a sound with too much treble. My 880s first kind of hurt when I listened loud, but they got smoother over time.

I am in doubt whether the m50 are very good choice for orchestral/classical works. That’d need something realistic sounding, so you can judge if the sound is kinda similar to the situation when listening close to the stage, and not like a pop/rock/electronic music mix. I once had a pair for testing, and it sounded sharp and synthetic, with cool and clear yet defined bass, but not so very much natural imho… They are probably very good for electronic/rock kind of music…

Really you should pinpoint the models you’d prefer, and visit some bigger music gear store where you can test the headphones. Even if you don’t buy them there. I think it is very much up to personal preference, which phones you will like best. Prepare some audio file and playback device where you can hear certain details that are important for your work. I think in shops you can often connect a 3.5mm stereo jack for testing… Then playback your file on each headphone, and see which one works best for you. This way you also know how comfortable to wear they are for you.

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I find Beyerdynamics very precise. But there is one thing, which I completely dislike about those (points to similar direction of what @OopsIFly wrote): I think it quite drastically compresses or limits the low bass area, so now the balance of low and high is not accurate. If you are used to these headphones, you may can compensate this. These headphones are very good to find/set fine details, depth or elemental mixing flaws, but it really sucks for editing the bass area.

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@ffx. I don’t know to what extent the blue curve of the upper graph is true. But seeing her scared me. It is a roller coaster. Not only does it have the very serious ups and downs, but the highs are exaggerated and there is a very pronounced path in the area of ​​highs. I do not doubt that they are heard perfectly, but to adjust frequencies while mixing a song with all the instruments must be horrible. I have not tried them, but it seems that it will be so. It will detect the most detailed sounds, I suppose, but to produce songs, it will be somewhat complicated.

I wonder why Custom Studio have that regulation system for the bass frequencies. It seems “a solution” to a problem instead of “a characteristic”. It is as if Beyerdinamics has had the habit of selling headphones with exaggerated and past bass, and has released another model (Custom Studio) that corrects that “feature”.

I guess they succeed as “studio headphones” for the price not too high and with a good marketing campaign behind, with its “30 years of history”. But that roller coaster is at least striking.
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  • Blue: DT 770 PRO (122€).
  • Red: Custom Studio (168€). Curve much more controlled. And with manual correction at low frequencies.

@OopsIFly. Yes, it is best to go to a specialized physical store to try them. I live in a town where there are no these stores. So I will have to go to a store in Valencia capital (Spain), where I have the opportunity to go. But first I want to inform myself well. Do not depend only on the comments of the shopkeeper.

Oh, I only know DT880 Pro (250 ohms version):

But I believe that it is possible that Beyerdynamic always compresses the bass area, maybe they think that it is a feature or ear protection. So these curves say nothing about compression. And what I hear is compression/limitation, not eqing.

This is key. You should be good with any on the ones mentioned here. You really need to get to know them, get used to how they sounds, listen to a lot of reference tracks to know how things should sound.

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I just bought a SUPERLUX HD662F this week, which is closed. For the price it’s incredible! It feels very comfortable and it’s also quite flat imo. I don’t know if you can get them in spain. They are available from e.g. Thomann. You can’t go wrong with them considering they are only ~30 bucks.

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Does anyone have experience on the subject of “burning headphones”?

Is it necessary to do it so that they sound better after the process? How long does it last?
Simply, I’m curious about this particular topic. I have never done this…


What?

If this really is doing something, just listen to music and it will have the same effect.

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As I have written above, my headphones of the larger kind that I encountered in new state sounded different when straight out of the box. With oddly sterile sound, background was lacking, highs often piercing a bit. Within the first 50-200 hours they changed sound, and became much smoother in sound. Which is a pity regarding the bass - my dt880 initially had some really tout, dark and defined bass, that became smooth and blurry after the change had happened.

I believe if this really does something, and it’s not just how hearing adapts - and I’m pretty sure, the pierce was real but also the bass was very different in the beginning, and background came in after a while - maybe this is just the main speaker membrane, that is initially a bit stiff and begins to become smoother after some time of exposure to vibrations.

IDK I just used the things with music, maybe left on music overnight, but any amount of enough bass should be okay to bring in the sound change. Maybe some “specialist treatment” can accelerate the change, but then again you will find lots of reports on the net, that just using them will also bring the cans to smoother sound.

Maybe with really old cans there will be an issue of slightly blurry sound with reduced highs and mushy transients, when the membrane became succeedingly softer after years of usage.

I just think it is important to consider, because first impression might give a subtly different sound than a used headphone. Because of this, I’d always recommend testing used phones (at music store…), and not rely on some new cans sounding like they will after 100-200 hours of playback.

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Thank you! From what I have deduced from people’s comments online, it seems that it is common for new headphones to have a somewhat rigid initial state in the bass membranes, as well as in any other dynamic element within the transducer. Then, initially it is possible for the bass to sound somewhat “stuck”, even to distort a little, because the membrane does not vibrate at the speed it should still.

I suppose that the passage of time will be the opposite. The membrane will be much less rigid, and will start to hear worse.

What I did not know is to what extent this issue can influence initial auditions and those of many hours of use. It seems to be a matter of taking it seriously.

I am very meticulous with audio. If something sounds bad, I feel very uncomfortable. I’m quite used to “good sound.” It might be frustrating to buy headphones that at first did not sound “fine” at all frequencies. So, I suppose it is necessary to give them some time to give their final sound.

As soon as I buy the headphones, I will test and leave some comments about my experience with them. It will be fun.

Do you know any simple USB audio interface for 80 ohm headphones that is also valid for 2 active studio monitors, with a volume wheel for monitors and another wheel for headphones? Simple in the sense of not having many connections and extras, but that the electronics are of quality to offer an excellent sound.

I think I will have problems with the output for the headphones and their ohm. If it has a very low ohm value, the headphones probably sound bad or have a very low volume. And I don’t want that to happen.

I could use that USB interface for several of my PCs, to move.

DT880 man.

This.

Just listen to music (or watch videos from youtube for example), from as many genres or sources online as you can. Your ears will get used to how your headphones sound.