Congratz!!
Why is the interface lagging? Im on a GTX 770.
The Spectrum panel and main volume meters at the very top are a bit laggy.
Why would the Spectrum viewer suddenly be slow on a GTX 770?
No other spectrum viewers on other DAW’s are dropping fps like this.
Utilize more of GPU instead of CPU. (Im on a 32bit system btw so dont make Renoise only run good at 64bit).
NOT a fan of the Aliased Spectrum Viewer and the changed Phase Scope representation.
Atleast make it so you can choose to use Alias or Anti-Alias?
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Thanks devs for all the hard work! Renoise has been my favorite music production tool since 2004 or so… but sadly, I’m also one of the disappointed ones when it comes to the direction Renoise 3.0 has taken.
For years I’ve been hoping for a better workflow for HW synths and live recording. Features I was hoping for:
- audio tracks with a dedicated audio input, to ease recording and see and modify your wave data (exactly as in the big DAWs)
- piano roll, to easily tidy up live recorded midi
It’s really too bad none of this happened (yet). Some people here argue that Renoise shouldn’t aspire to be a full DAW, but it’s already so damn close in my opinion… 
What I like most about Renoise is the level of direct control one has. Both with notes, pattern/track effects and samples/instruments. Plus working with a keyboard is so much faster than always clicking around such as in more mouse-oriented DAWs.
I really, really, really hope the devs heed this call. Perhaps Renoise 3.1?
ps. Perhaps a bit of a wild idea, but how about doing away with the pattern concept and introduce just one infinite pattern (with a song end marker somewhere). Consequences:
- you can freely record arbitrarily long sequences (either in live played audio or midi)
- there are no pattern barriers when adding notes or working with envelopes. Meaning no more awkward editing of multi pattern envelopes.
- the piano roll view is not hindered by pattern barriers and can behave like in “the big DAWs”.
It can be made fully compatible with the old pattern behavior:
- the matrix view will still be there, but instead of pointing to patterns it will point to row ranges within the infinite pattern.
- all pattern actions (CTRL+…) will now be in reference to a row range selected in the matrix view (if it’s just one row range it behaves exactly like the current pattern actions, if multiple consecutive row ranges are selected it works on all of them. Finally things can flood over to the next pattern if you desire so). If there is no specific selected row range in the matrix view, Renoise will use the “active” row range (the one in which the cursor is located).
- sequences of patterns like we have now will be sequences of row ranges and are optional (by default Renoise plays the whole infinite pattern until the song end marker)
- row ranges are numbered automatically such that references in the sequence can be made to them
I’m sure there are plenty of technical issues that need to be solved in order to pull something like this off (e.g. all automation values at the start and end of row ranges will need to be implicitly stored, such that a non-linear jump in the sequence can pick up the right values).
It’s just a wild idea I had, that would bring Renoise for me as close to perfection as it can get 
Everyone have a great xmas and 2014!
Cheers,
Erik
Preferences → GUI → unclick “Enable GUI effects & animations”. Works for me.
redux? noone needs this. it seems to be a plan to get a wider user range to make more money instead of impoving renoise. the new “features” are mostly useless. renoise already got almost every feature it needs except better midi-file support, internal vst midi routing, maybe a pianoroll for ambient or classical music. instead of improving the tracker concept and build a hybrid between traditional sequencers and trackers, devs now focus more on (out of time-) sample editing. phrases are nice but noone really needs this as we have tools like cream and cthullhu. these tools are a much better solution for that! well 3.0…thats the old behaviour of a tracker …so what we now get is a semi professional daw in form of a tracker, nothing less, nothing more…but i promise you no future for renoise with going that way. too bad!
Guys. This is a beta, and we are the beta testers. Like early adopters.
The new Renoise release have added some good or great features that should have been available sooner or later. Let’s help out by giving feedback on these features, and hope that our own preferred feature is being added in the future.
There is no doubt Renoise is evolving with this version. Don’t be disappointed just because the devs don’t have exactly the same roadmap and priorities as you would have had.
Piano roll will be in Renoise 5.0
There is so much potential in Renoise, and 3.0b is a significant step forward. That’s most important to me.
beta or not, i can’t remember that a new renoise version ever polarized the users as much as 3.0 does.
and i have to confess, as much as i always loved renoise and almost adopted it as a religion - this release feels awkward and superfluous.
in my opinion renoise’s development has taken the wrong route, with features which are “nice to have” at best, but not mandatory when taking into account what other DAWs are capable of since several years in some regards.
I agree they could have focused differently if they wanted to compete with other daws (audio tracks and stretching). Åt the same time, this is a x.0 release, and they may be smart in adding some other foundations to be reviewed by the users before evolving it further.
The polarization has much to do with Renoise getting more and more competetive . But on its own terms.
The “foundation” spin was used in 2.0. It’s even in the press release. Literally: “We decided Renoise 2.0 would be the best time to incorporate fundamental changes […] this massive engine overhaul is essential for behemoth features in later releases, such as Zooming, the Arranger, Audio Tracks and a Piano Roll.” Is this a pile of overhyped impossible bullshit? Maybe. One thing is for sure is that this is what people on the dev team actually believed in 2009. Or how about when Renoise was first released in 2002 it wanted to be “professional music software” now it wants to be “niche.” The quotes are there because those are real quotes. I think what was once a great hope has turned into one man’s burden. What was once exuberance is now anti-social.
Renoise is still a great project, and the upgrades are amazing, but the mood has changed, and some people know it more than others.
/Buzzkill.
I haven’t had a chance to try v3 out yet but the features list looks amazing. Phrases in particular look like a godsend (I likes me some polyrhythms) and Doofer reminds me of the Combinator from Reason (which I really like) and convolution reverb is a lovely surprise. You’ve saved me some time with the MaYbe command too - I was planning to write a tool for that. I’m tempted to suggest implementing Buzz-style modules but seriously, there’s plenty to keep anyone busy there!
Concerning the price change, I’m a little confused. Correct me if I’ve misunderstood but if 3.0b is only available to existing users (current demo is 2.8.2) then what’s the point in waiting until the final release is ready before putting the price of a new licence up? Obviously people with an existing licence can upgrade for slightly less but otherwise I don’t see the benefit. What if at some you made the beta open and provided a demo version of 3.0b to entice people to try/buy before the price goes up?
For the record, I totally took the opportunity to upgrade my licence - I’m safe until 4.5 now!
Thanks devs for getting this out before xmas - you’ve raised the bar for presents from family and friends. 
It’s simply becoming overcomplicated for the most simple tasks, without achieving anything special in the end. I’m really used to work in complex modular synthesis environments, but - specially regarding the new instrument features - setting up a most simple instrument in 3.0 with basic capabilities of a pretty cheap sound generator becomes a hilarious complicated act. Even more when realizing the fact, it then still isn’t capable of a lot of necessary basics and even less of any synthesis capabilities. Tossing a whole GUI into the blender to afterwards throw the result into the fan did the rest.
Like it or not, peeps. It’s a fact meanwhile ANY DAW with its native components is lightyears ahead of Renoise. Technically and workflow related as much as soundwise. Call me hater, call me asshole, I still call myself a plain realist for knowing what I’m talking about.
This release is perfect for people, that like to play around with tiny elemnts to afterwards get happy, when hitting a button makes “beep”, “wob” or plays a phrase. But it’s neither made for musicians, nor for sound designers. Sorry.
thats it
I must agree and disagree. Yes, 3.0 adds features that will actually pay later when there’s even more native DSP. On the other hand, I’ve extensivly tried (and sadly bought) cubase, reaper, energy xt, zebra and what not this year only to realize that the song editing in Renoise is as fast or faster, and the consistent GUI (typing values, one kind of slider, the undo implementation, pre-docked interface) is so good, I’ll stick to Renoise even if Bitwig gets released today. (it doesn’t)
And from my past criticism on the renoise forum and from personal projects I learnt that supporting the development as it goes, finding the positive things, is the best I could do. And there’s not a single direction for a software imho, Renoise could at virtually anything over time, and don’t really care when the devs add what, as long as there is not a 2-year private beta testing period.
[edit: handful of posts removed between me, kola, and conner, that should clearly be discussed in private, and would only cause more unnecessary drama, as rightly pointed out by bit_arts]
Alright I gotta say I’m not getting all the hate… I am extremely impressed with this release. Took me a short while to adjust to the the interface, but I find it so much more powerful.
Working with samples is so much more amazing now. I put together this track in a couple hours just playing with the new features…
Made with Renoise 3 using samples and native plugins:
Thanks to the Devs!!! 
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Same people always complaining, “I don’t have a piano roll, there are no audio tracks, other daws are more advance, this upgrade is superfluous.”
In reality = the world; technology, business, music, art, life is changing at such a high rate of speed!! Do not forget all these things are intertwined.
Renoise 3 is a nice upgrade; people can be negative about it if they want, and they can also think that their negativity is the truth and those who do not subscribe to a negative viewpoint are fanboys or somehow ignorant. However, at the end of the day, “Renoise is still a tracker. It still has no piano roll. Still no audio tracks. The GUI needed a rework because current computer graphics specs and cross platform coding demanded it. It looks like cocoa or something… I think its very beautiful.”
The phrase editor is wicked… wicked!! And the Renoise instrument got some cool new features. There is a whole new array of native fx and a the fx chains functions are more mature.
C’est la vie!!
Good work, imho…
Yah, please don’t disturb me while writing down my frustrations. Fuck ranting, fuck this s**t release. Time to pull something out of it. I have a reputation to lose. 
Somehow it’s the kinda usual love<->hate thing, like with every release. I seriously hate that addiction. No wait, I love it. Nah, I seriously hate it. Shit, I can’t.
Where is that damn forum psychatrist, when I need him?
*going into 3.0 enclosure NAO. expect the unexpected!
With any new release, there’s always going to be people disappointed. I have my disappointments. I do think proper side chaining is kind of a standard and don’t really see why that’s not more of a priority. That’s a standard in any DAW and I don’t see why a tracker should be any different. Maybe it’s there and I don’t really understand how to use. If it is then it’s still not implemented well enough because things like that should be simple and straightforward.
However, overall, I’m happy with this release. Honestly, not at all what I expected. I love the Macros. This can seriously come in handy!! The phrase editor is cool too! It’s confusing in someways. Haven’t figured out how to extend pattern lengths in phrases. Not sure if you can? If you can, again should be more straightforward. More obvious. But still, I kind of see this release as more of a template for bigger things. I’m really excited to see where it goes. I will say, there needs to be a video showcasing some of these features to give an idea of how to utilize them. Some of it is a bit overwhelming. Would be nice to get a visual run down that kind of showcases all these things. There’s a lot here and not all of it immediately obvious in terms of power or potential.
Anyways, I think it’s a great release overall.
Big thanks for the new release! Phrases and Redux (Content Libraries) hint towards much higher modularization and a lot of work behind the scenes.
Special thanks for the phrases, the detachable instrument editor and the ability to limit an instrument to a specific scale - makes work much easier. I like the new UI, it does not hinder me at all. On Linux it feels more snappy than 2.8 and the workflow changes quickly found their way into my head.
One wish: please help users with high density displays (e.g. 1920x1080 at 166 dpi on a 13 inch ultrabook). Many labels are barely readable.