I got pretty much the thing that’s driven me the most crazy fixed: the new envelopes are amazing. The fader, the ability to set pitch range, ms/beat toggle, so good. You can make pretty much any envelope you can imagine now very easily. No more making drums by setting bpm to 999, enveloping, and resampling.
Looks pretty badass to me… The Phrase-function seems awesome and if it opens up for more polyrhythmic stuff I’m really happy about that. And scales = great.
Because… it’s the most awesome thing that’s ever happened. That’s why. I loooove it.
congrats renoise developpers, great release! personally i’m glad you didn’t listen to the pianotroll/waveform display/‘true’ side-chain guys
FX on instrument level is a very smart move, Redux is a great idea (can’t wait to ditch exs24), Doofer rox, sample editor is great, phrase editor (!)… ok some small bits to adjust but it’s beta phase for a reason.
for the haters:
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get some quality impulse responses in the convolver and put chorus/flanger/pan before it for your next gen native reverb
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get creative with Doofer and FX on instruments and realise yourself that sidechain is so 2002
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wait for redux and one can route himself crazy in his favorite DAW
i’m tired as hell and yet i won’t sleep this night, cruel world
This is a cool new version. Many bright ideas; very good work I’m just taking a first look, but so far I think its pretty good
Instrument phrases just made my NIGHT!!! Thank you thank yoy!
Dear guys, talking and adressing your replies to “haters”: I haven’t read any hate here. Simple critics on topic have nothing to do with hate. It’d be a good idea to grow up a bit and drop that blinded fanboy attitude. Othwerwise the only thing you prove is, you don’t understand what the critics are about. I have to admit, I’m surprised how many never before seen “experts” suddenly appeared here to adress “haters” and flood the thread with their illuminated wisdom. At the same time I wonder, where are you and your apparently excellent knowledges, when it comes to practical help on the forum? I really must have missed all the valuable contributions and helpings of you wise guys all the time. So, shame on me, for absolutely not knowing what I’m talking about, when I dared to write critics about the holy grail.
I know, you mean what you’re saying. But I don’t feel anymore like repeating the same things over and over again. I’ve kept telling a lot of those things since 2.6, when I remember right. It’s the dev team trying to sell something to me. Not the other way around. Lots of development companies pay hired teams for profounded feedback. Other development teams obviously can afford to ignore getting the same feedback for free, because of enough jubilant fanboys, that still don’t realize they can’t do a whole range of modern sounds without the missing features. I’m fine with that.
Yeah but that’s what VST’s and Rewire are for, I don’t expect Renoise to be able to do everything but am very happy with what it can do.
People are happy, no need to be such a buzzkill.
Actually, no. By default there are no effects. If you add an effect chain, all samples are reassigned to it. True for new samples too.
But, if you absolutely need different samples to go through different FX, then yes, you need to perform a few clicks />
Apropos automateable loop markers: +1
Some are happy, some are not. I’d even agree with you about the VST and Rewire thing, if it would require huge changes to reach the same capabilities with Renoise. But that’s not the case, even less with 3.0. It is still (the same) small things, that are missing to turn Renoise into a fucking powerhouse beyond any existing VST capabilities. And that’s the point. I can’t even blame ppl for not knowing about that, because you’d need to have deeper knowledge about sound design. Only the fewest have that and that’s totally normal and okay. But ppl without that knowledge then really shouldn’t call critics “haters”, because it’s just plain stupid.
And about the buzzkill: I’m sorry, if it appears like that. But I’m not here for anyone’s entertainment. I’m here to talk about the topic.
At the risk of being shot down, I think it’s a bit soon to judge… one of the good things about Renoise is that it usually takes a bit of time to realise the potential of the various things buried in there. But right now, I’m feeling rather more jubilant and fanboyish than ever before, due to the sudden raft of possibilities in front of me… />
Why would I shoot you down? I’m glad for everyone being satisfied with the release, which without any doubt has a lot of great new features. I’m glad with a lot of the new features, too. You won’t see me running around, screaming “OMG, how can you be satisfied with that?”.
Well it’s good to hear you say that! Nothing wrong with a bit of fanboyism from time to time, I think the devs deserve it…
woah there’s tons of new stuff in 3.0 and the new ui elements are real slick.
but as i delve further into it i think it’ll be a while before i scratch the surface of the possibilities.
thx devs! and merry xmas/ happy holidays. we appreciate your work
p.s the phrase editor for samples is way awesome. i already see some crazy stuff being done with it.
G-d damn it!
I saw this just now and now I have to go to bed!
The phrase editor is basically, “the absolute most brutal sickest electronica thing ever.” Everybody has to learn Renoise 3 now… Renoise 3 is like, “totally and completely different.” The Renoise Instrument is totally mind confused now. LOL!! But it looks really good.
And I agree with the above person that the GUI is now very mature looking, very well done
I’m very happy to see a new version of Renoise but i don’t know how i feel about the GUI changes. I’m sure that the new features are all amazing and that the GUI is the least of your worries (in the sense that you’ve made up your mind when it comes to the GUI and the features are more important either way) but for me, as a non-pro-user, it’s kind of irritating to have to get used to GUI changes in every major release.
I think the GUI is not so different. I think you are confusing the new features on the Renoise Instrument as, “changes in the GUI.” From what I can tell, there are a few changes to the browser, and vst plugin settings… but not so many gui changes as there are, “GUI new features.”
The program is very much exactly the same, with a couple of things slightly different. However, there are a lot of new features… But the GUI was also, “remade and updated,” so because the GUI looks new, you think it is dramatically different, but it is not.
I hope that makes sense.
BTW, the GUI does look great!! I hope that nobody is thinking that I am not noticing the hard work that went into the GUI. I am just saying, “Renoise does not all of a sudden look 100% different now.” The new GUI features are very likable… I like all the tabs and stuff
The new instrument workflow is AMAZING … loving the realtime feedback.
I like the round corners.
After 3 hours, the beta seems rock solid.
I see your point. You are right that the main elements are still present and I don’t have trouble finding them. But like I said, it may sound nitpicky or lazy but you get used to look at certain portions of the screen and expect there to be the information that you need. You give it a quick glance and you continue. The same goes for buttons. If you have to relearn this, it’s always kind of troublesome. Another thing is the sliding of the sections in the Sample view. I think it is unnecessary eye-candy, I don’t have the patience to wait for that, but that’s just me.
In the end, I’ll get used to it, so don’t take what I say too seriously.