I really don’t like the confrontational tone of what you’re saying here “just admit it”; accusing me of knowingly and willingly stealing your work, and then somehow trying to trick everybody into thinking that I did this first. What would I even have to gain by doing that? Why would I risk my reputation here on the forums with such a stupid and pointless thing? Do you think I am that desperate for attention or for other peoples’ respect? Why would I need to steal your work when I’m perfectly capable of doing this stuff on my own? It doesn’t make any sense at all!
I based my earlier comment on your plucked string example because I had never even seen your 440.xrns example before! You can’t expect me to automatically know about some random file that you posted on the forum months ago, in a thread that I wasn’t even involved with! I do spend a lot of time on the forum, but I can’t possibly read every single post ever made. If I had known about your 440.xrns example, then I would have replied to you and said “well done, that’s a really cool example”, because it is a really cool example… but I did not steal it from you.
@Matt, now that I’ve finally been able to look at your 440.xrns example thanks to kazakore re-uploading it, I have absolutely no problem in agreeing that we both used the same basic techniques here, but what does that even prove? What am I supposed to be ‘admitting’ that I stole from you?
Are you saying that I stole the idea to use a line-in device + dc offset? People have been using this technique for a long time now. You even said yourself that you started out by playing with the ‘no instrument’ demo that is included with Renoise. (I assume you’re referring to ‘Nivi’ by Neurotix?)
Are you saying that I stole the idea to use a dc offset + ringmod as a better type of oscillator? There’s absolutely nothing new about this idea either.
Are you saying that I stole the idea to tune the ringmod to accurate note frequencies? Surely you can’t be suggesting this, because this is such a ridiculously basic musical concept to begin with. Once we’ve established that it’s possible to get sound from a ringmod, then the next logical step is how to get musically tuned sound out of it. You definitely did not invent this one.
Are you saying that I stole the idea to use an lfo with custom envelope points to produce accurate tunings/automations? I’ve been doing this for as long as it was possible to do it, and I’ve posted plenty of different examples of how to use lfos in interesting ways like this, to map lfo points to accurate automation of other parameters in a dsp chain. Many other people here have done exactly the same thing. Nothing new.
Are you saying that I stole the idea of linking a key-tracking device to the custom lfo? Really?
None of these ideas on their own are unique, and if you have even the most basic understanding of how synthesis works, then combining these ideas together is not a unique idea, either.
If you want to create sounds in Renoise using nothing but native effects, then it’s quite obvious that the foundation will usually be based on dc offset + ringmod in some way. It’s the most convenient and easy way (that I know of) to create a waveform without using samples in Renoise, and it’s just common knowledge as far as I’m concerned. There is no special setup here or totally unique ideas. It’s a very simple matter of putting a few dsp devices in the correct order, programming in the lfo points, and then it’s done. Even Pysj already responded here to say that he’s been using this technique himself for a long time. It’s not a new idea!
I can only state the facts here: I did not base anything I’ve done here on any of Matt’s work. I had never even seen his example until today, so to say that my work is “based on Matt’s idea” is therefore rather inaccurate. I’m not even sure what “Matt’s idea” means in this context, since everything here is at some point based on ideas that were already in the community.
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I can’t believe how ridiculous this thread became. All because someone is being paranoid that I would even bother to waste my time doing something so stupid like steal another guy’s work.
I never even tried to claim any credit for the ideas behind this stuff, haha. I just wanted to post a cool example of what could be done. This is so silly.
Meh.
