Yeah. I also tried with os3, on os X. But no.
My OS3 + Renoise 2.0 results
Notes are being triggered in time.
BPM still goes crazy on the synth (playback only) so any BPM synced effects are out
Renders timing sounds a bit sloppy.
Best results I have had so far. The plugin is usable as long as I avoid effects that rely on a decent clock sync. Anything else that is clock synced like LFoOs etc I can use an automation device if need be - I don’t use ARPs so no loss there. It’s still workaround but lets me use the plug-in with less loss of functionality. Te renders are the only disappointing part, but there may be some setting tweaks to fix this.
Taktik, has there been any progress in loaning a test unit ?
I wrote them again a while ago, but they never responded. Sorry, but as soon as I get my hands on a Virus TI, I will take a look at this. For now I can not do anything “blindly” here…
I understand taktik, I’ve started a thread at infekted.org (unoffical virus forum) and see if we can get some response.
Anyone interested can have a look/post here:
I think you’re being way too kind. Virtually any VST works in any VST-capable sequencer. It’s ridiculous that they’re not taking the time to finally address this issue and make it disappear. It’s been around for years now and it shows the utter lack of competence and priorities they have amongst their software programmers and crew.
I would agree but then I’m not suprised since Renoise isn’t on their priority list. Apparently Digital Performer aren’t supported either as host and I would guess that DP has a higher following than Renoise.
Though since taktik offers to fix it (if possible) by just loaning a unit it’s very little effort needed from Access.
If I lived in Berlin I would buy a unit and lend it but I don’t.
Some news. We finally got in contact with the access developers and will try to find a solution for this together now.
What I need to know from you now though, is a clear description of what works and what does not work with which Virus at which version (important!). I still have no Virus to test this here, so I have to forward your problem descriptions to them. Please be as precise as possible and start with the most important problems.
Before you test the Virus again, here are some general tips from access:
- On Windows, use ASIO - the Virus ASIO device - not DirectSound!
- Try playing around with the ASIO buffer size to see if that makes a difference
And some “out of the blue” tips form me:
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Avoid (or test) if groove settings in Renoise are the problem. Does Renoise & the Virus sync up fine hen using no groove in Renoise?
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Try if disabling (yes disabling) the static buffer compatibility settings for the Virus fixes the timing probs.
Have you ever got your Virus working in other hosts?
Sounds very promising.
Hope the guys who has a TI right now, read this
My results for now:
Setup: Renoise 2.0, Virus TI keyboard with firmware 3.0 (01-2009), Motu 828MK2 (default sound device), MidiSport 8x8s
There is actually just one problem with the Virus TI when using Renoise and that is the ‘timing’. Everything else works just fine, as long as you use non-temposynced sounds. Routing, adding external FX (VST), etc… no problem at all. As soon as you select any sound that depends on timing the TI goes bezerk in most cases.
Scenario’s tested (Groove settings are always disabled):
- Static buffers: enabled, Sequence play: OFF
- The TI seems to sound like it should. No problems found.
- Static buffers: enabled, Sequence play: ON
- The tempo is way off. Most of the time the TI is playing the arp sequences much too fast (at least 3 or 4 times faster). Notes are skipped often, crackles can be heard.
- Static buffers: disabled, Sequence play: OFF
- Tempo is way off, but now also the TI’s internal effects are all over the place. Sounds like someone is going wild with the pitch bender. (maybe great for very experimental music
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- Static buffers: disabled, Sequence play: ON
- Tempo is way off, pitch-bended FX, FX sound different (eg. shorter delaytime).
- Changing ASIO buffer size
- No effect…
- Changing the ASIO device (Motu828MK2 <–> Virus TI)
- No effect.
- Other tempo/ LPB settings
- No effect, even at 32bpm and LPB @ 1.
- Does the TI work with other hosts?
- Successful tests with ‘Cakewalk Sonar 7’ and ‘SVarTracker 1.2.2 free edition’. In Sonar you have to alter a few settings (select ‘Freewheel’ mode and ‘ASIO’), in SVar the Time multiplier must be set at or around 0.25.
VST hosts like MadTracker even make a bigger mess of the sound compared to Renoise.
If any sound samples are needed, let me know.
If I’m not misstaken from the infekted forum, the timing with arps seem to be an issue for a lot of people.
But as far as I know no one can say why it happens.
I had similar problems in Ableton Live forever, although it seems to work ok for some people.
What Access said for OSX?
i can help for Leopard renoise and TI!
Let me know!
Mame result here MSXUser.
My Arps working fine in Logic and Ableton.
Thanks for the details MSX. I have forwarded your report to the access devs. Lets hope we can finally solve this…
There are also some reports that patch saving/restoring doesn’t work? Is this (still) true, and does this only happen in Renoise?
Did a few quick tests and didn’t find any problem with saving/loading patches. Maybe another TI user can do some more testing?
I can do some testing on the Mac side later.
It seems that the plugin doesn’t publish the vst parameters correctly… I only get 3 params for each channel. Is anyone else experiencing this? on windows xp btw.
Do you mean when you click the ‘automation’ tab, you only see ‘Panning’, ‘Volume’ and ‘Width’? That’s the case with all the VST instruments I have. Only VST effects show their parameters.
Btw: I’m still in contact with access. They promised to look at this. I’ll keep you informed…