Samples / Venetian

[Name_User]

@Hyaenaboy

There’s a lot of VSnares clones out there, so make sure you don’t go too overboard with the whole glitchbreakcore thing.

Not really, though I guess the ones who do exist are going for that clown shit from the later stuff. If there were a bunch of VSnares clones that were the equivalent of what Tycho is to BOC I’d be pretty satisfied.

There’s two proper paths to splatterbreak whatevercore:

1 - Know nothing. Have absolutely no idea what you’re doing, learn nothing, be stubborn, do it intuitively.

OR

2 - Learn theory and actually understand precisely what you’re doing, and how you’re going to do it.

The first one is hard because you’re often going to get sidetracked making utter garbage. The second one is hard because if you don’t know quite enough, and you can’t articulate your ideas or at the very least ambitions, you will turn out derivative horseshit that’s actually worse than what you would have done if you didn’t know anything at all.

If you’re currently at step one, I recommend staying there. Listen to no one, read no guides, download no samplepacks, ask no questions. Just dig into whatever sequencer you’re comfortable with and destroy shit.

If you’ve already moved past that point, then I’m sorry, you have a terrible few years ahead of you. Maybe induce braindamage to take a few steps back and clear your mind, otherwise good luck.

[Sepix]

haha that`s so horribly true

[Cadu (flipbit03)]

Made this track some time ago and in my crazy, musically-oblivious head i called it 6.5/4. What do you guys think? I counted to 6 and added half-beat for kicks.

https://soundcloud.com/flipbit03/flipbit03-its-on-bit

[mars.64]

Blu Mar Ten did all the hard work for you, check this out: WARDOWN II

This pack is made up of samples taken from tracks in our record collection. It started as a bit of fun to kill time in between proper music work and suddenly became quite large, so it seemed a shame not to share it.

These are not some secret special sounds only available to ‘jungle legends’. Anyone with the tracks and some time to waste could have made this pack.

[RiDylan (Dylan G)]

@Elsekiss

A couple things:

As to Aaron’s breaks, I remember him saying something that he doesn’t like to use breaks and rather goes with mutated one-shot samples.

As to time signatures, I’ve always thought of odd time signatures as a combination of simple meter bars with beats missing. For example, when you count 7 you can count it like (1),2,3,4,(5),6,7,1,(2),3,4,5,(6),7,(1)… Or you can count it like (1),2,3,4,(5),6,7,(1),2,3,4,(5),6,7…
Breakcore in odd meters is more cohesive if you think of your rhythmic phrases in terms of more than one bar.
Counting in 5 is different, as it’s almost always either counted as 3&2 or 2&3, the latter being less common.

But something I’d like to point out though:

Wasn’t you the type to mimic what you saw on TV?
Wasn’t you the type to mimic what you heard on CD?
You never wanted to work you wanted everything easy,
You heard Venetian Snares and you said, “That’s me, easy!”

Those are lyrics from the VSnares tune “Gentleman”, a tune which also referenced the idea of people stealing ideas right out of his computer. There’s nothing wrong with taking ideas from artists, but if you do so, take them from many artists and not just one. There’s a lot of VSnares clones out there, so make sure you don’t go too overboard with the whole glitchbreakcore thing.

I absolutely love this track but never realized the idea behind the track. Thanks for sharing. Very funny.

[ToybOx]

Honestly different time signatures are only as complex as you would like to make them.I find writing in non 4/4 to be easier to me than writing in 4/4 because they come with less baggage than compound time and your free to explore more openly,anyways theres nothing difficult about odd time signatures at all,its just people never use them.Of course youl find them difficult at first if youve never used anything other than 4/4.As for venetian snares style amens,get yourself a mackie mixer,a dat machine,a compressor and a sound card and your half way there!Its pretty much old school jungle gear minus the akai samplers.