Second mix - can has new mewric - free download



Make music and listen to the love.

I have typed something here about the track.

162 BPM
key is set to Dm , a lot of half-tone transitions, Dm to D, and C, Cm, and F, Fm
used 19 (of 21, +2 muted, of 24, +3 empty tracks for oversight) tracks

Second session mix.
There was too much bass and a stereo enhancement issue in the first rough mix.

I played a scheme on the Korg M1 synthesizer, preset “Background”.
wrote it down as

G#maj7 G G#maj7/F Fm7
Dm7/Bb Gm Dm7 -
G#maj7/F Gm7 Dm7 -
Bbmin G D -

I programmed that in the tracker Renoise 3.2.1, and then added more chords,
switching from the D to Dm, G to Gm, using a A72b instead of the G, more variation with C, Cm, F, Fm.

VSTi Korg M1 preset “Background” with filter automation in the tracker to make sweepy short plucks.

alternated, all with slow filter and group volume automation:
VSTi Korg M1 preset Analogpad2 altered
VSTi Korg WAVESTATION preset “Dream Strings”
VSTi Korg M1 preset “ClkSoloSyn” altered

I loaded the chords into Band-in-a-Box 2020 by a saved MIDI file.
It translated the chord scheme into 64 bars, being:

Abmaj7 - Gm - Fm7 - - -
Bbmaj7 - Gm7 - Dm7 - - -
Fm7 - Gm7 - Dm7 - - -
Bbm - A7 - D - - -
Dm7 - G - C - - -
Cm7 - Gm7 - Dm7 - - -
D - C - Fmaj7 - - -
Fm7 - G - Ebmaj7 - - -

the interpretation by the computer of the Fmaj7 was done as F,
but the bass played an odd note that did not appear with the Fmaj7.

I used the following instrumental tracks from Band-in-a-Box 2020:
Bass guitar:
3114:Bass, Electric, RootsyFunkAlex Ev 16 110 (Half-Time)
Electric guitar single note strumming:
*(repeating the first part of the recording, the guitarist started jamming too much, country riffs…)
3163:Guitar, Baritone Electric, Rhythm BluesyPopSteady8thsBrent Ev 100
Electric piano (part of):
3337:Piano, Electric, Rhythm FunkJeff Ev16 110
Piano (part of):
1993:Piano, Acoustic, Rhythm Jazz4toBar sw 190
Saxophone (part of):
1058, Sax, Alto, Soloist SmoothJazzPoppy Ev16 090 (Half-Time)
Realdrums=CongasShuffle[single]: a: Congas b: CongasShuffle[single]
Realdrums=BossaRock^1-a:Blastic, Hihat , b:Sidestick Ride
RealDrums=SambaFull^1-a:Sticks, b: Ride Contemporary (in song set to B part only)
RealDrums=SalsaGuaracha23^1-a:Timbal, B:Bells
RealDrums=RootsyFunkSput^1-a:Sidestick, Kick, b:Ride, Snare (Half-Time)

Samples used:
a kick drum sample cut from the Renoise sample library breakbeats.
a nostalgic Korg M1 Bell hit
a crash cymbal (edited)
a noisy cymbal-like sound (edited)

VST Plugins used:
BassChorus by CloneEnsemble
SupaPhaser by Bram
Freeverb2 (now on Audacity WIKI)
Ozone 8 Elements (Spatializer, can also equalize and limit)
TDR Kotelnikov GE (compressor), on master bus.
otiumFX BassLane (makes bass part mono)

Internal Renoise effects used:
Analog Filter (w/ Drive)
Filter3 (w/ Floor gain)
Equalizer 10-bands
Bus Compressor
Maximizer (Limiter)

all put together in Renoise 3.2.1
conversion to flac done with FlicFlac

EatMe / free music -


Good track and it was really nice of you providing all the info

Very nice, what is the original song, did you make it, too? Maybe try to add a steep tilt filter on master, so the bass area is equally reduced. The bass area is since, but also very loud. Or better fix in the mix.

1 Like

Just giving this a listen with dt770 pro headphones…

Not sure what to say about the band in a box stuff. Maybe its personal preference - to me it sounds too much like some random elevator jazz, not like something truly creative. Maybe it’s time for you to make the fusion, and either strongly edit and rearrange the automatically generated, or even go back to what you did before you stumbled upon biab. Music is so much more than just the jazzing…in each melody line there is some part of the soul of the creator, whether he wants or not. Well I just liked more what you made yourself before you started using the plugin. The sax solo stands out though, it is really nice…

Regarding the mix…yes bass is a little too loud, and bass room/ambience is a bit too muddy and should be cleaned up. With spectrum analyser try to aim for a pink noise spectrum curve, also in the bass! Also you need to be aware of stereo phasing in the region below 300hz. It is common practice to mono that range during mix and/or master. The bass phasing is annoying with headphones, it sounds very unnatural…! You might have intended it as room effect, but you need to see that normally the bass stereo/room info is totally sufficient if it is taking place in the harmonics above 300hz.

Regarding the general stereo width it is okay, maybe a little pulled apart to the sides, and it might be better to reduce the width for an instrument or two, to make it more balanced. But there is nothing totally “wrong” for my ears so to say. Normally I track with little width, balance the widths in the mix relative to each other, then on master the width of each band is adjusted from mono on the subs, normal stereo on the mids and expanded on the highs. It is okay to make stuff wide on headphones, if it is balanced and the listener doesn’t get the impression of being tilted to one side accustically. Also the “surround” setting of the stereo expander needs to be used with care…I mostly only use it on reverbs, never on dry signal…

I like it!

stoximan: Thanks! I am enjoying the track also.

ffx: eeey… I did. It is all described how. I will reduce that bass.

Clouds Gone: Thanks for the extensive review. Also, thanks for the compliment to say that you liked the music that I made on me own was much better than the music that partly comes from band-in-a-box. I have to maybe concur that. I’m now getting more used to working with these instrumentals. It’s especially useful to chop the volume with v00 at times on the bass tracks, meight do even more intensive gainstaging of individual tracks in future projects. The bass is mostly mono, as I have used the otiumFX BassLane plugin, but there still is too much stereo expansion (ozone Elements) on the master and too much bass, i will have to reduce that.

HeartBeatHero: You did, didn’t you? I did.

Thanks everyone for the comments, a better mix will be here some time!

I updated the first version with the second session mix

1 Like

i would say in between first and this version would be better.

1 Like

I have fixed the issues on headphones in the second session mix.
The stereo enhancement got seperated to a much lower mixed dual dry/wet send-track with selective multiband send and gainstaging.
Also, I have reduced, filtered and equalized, the bass region.

The track is now for download:

1 Like