Stars Collide

Hello,

This is my new (false) Dubstep track : )

Few explanations from sounds :

Stepanie Kay voice and piano (intro and end) by Avarice

The subbass we hear very little : VST Dexed
Choirs : VST Nexus 2
The melody synthesizer from 27s : VST ANA 6
The synth that starts 1mn20 : Renoise instrument Anthem
The little synth played 2 octoves along with the piano VST Spire
The big bass sound DubStep from 53s : Massive VST

In FXs , as usual everything is native except : Glitch 2 .

I do not know if this is a good track (I’m disappointed with the mastering), but finally I made ​​it all pretty quickly (3-4 days all around ) .
Once again : Renoise is a unique software for composition. No waste of time and tremendous efficiency . On this track he still impressed ( I used a lot “groups” , very practical ) .

Good Listening !!

http://soundcloud.com/stailer/stars-collide

The composition is engaging and moody. Flows well. I could listen to it for longer, though the current length is fine too.

It does sound like some of the sounds are fighting for space a little, though it definitely listenable.

I really like the dynamic created by more dominant synths. It seems to depart from the typical dubstep and the synths set the tone and drive the track. The use of vocals is a nice subtle touch and i like the sound and they sit well in the mix.

I also like that the bass isn’t dominant. i personally would leave it like that or something similar. just my opinoin.

For a couple of days work it’s still really good. Really nice vibe :slight_smile:

Maybe leaving it for a while and coming back with fresh ears could help?

Anyways, Great job. :smiley:

What Abissus said :slight_smile:

I would change the compression though (is it on the master?).

To my ears it sounds like the whole track is drifting in and out - this style of compression is more suitable to voice-overs and such.

Ha. :smashed: I had my volume on the pc down and didn’t notice until i listened to a track i know. It sounds a little different hehe.

Still good, though I second Danoise too, somethings do sound a little squashed when the whole mix kicks in.

Maybe a little subtler compression and sculpting with eq and panning to separate things?

Eqing competing frequencies may give everything its own space,panning to set each piece on the stage.

Particularly with such rich dynamics, it will give everything a chance to breathe in my opinion. :wink:

Hello,

Thank you for your comments ! i m very happy this track is good for you two :slight_smile:

I think too mastering is not genius and unfortunely it’s not my speciality :frowning: … I will try to listen to your advice carefully next composition.

Thanks again :slight_smile:

I would change the compression though (is it on the master?).

No there is not compression on master… i’m going try to add.

No there is not compression on master… i’m going try to add.

Oh, I thought it was on the master because the whole mix seems like it’s affected.

I would probably remove/disable all compression and put it back in a way that doesn’t interfere with the listening experience. THEN you could consider FX on the master channel, but usually you would want that as a final step: first mixing, then mastering. Or skip mastering altogether :stuck_out_tongue:

^^ Precisely. :wink:

Could it also be that there is a lot of low freq info competing in the mix and therefor giving the impression of being compressed?

If so, cutting some lows out where its not needed, taking some sub out of the kick and cutting the bass where the kick will poke through or visa versa depending on taste. Or I suppose you could sidechain it, but I assume a few cuts would be easier.

Hello,

Thank you for your comments ! i m very happy this track is good for you two :slight_smile:

I think too mastering is not genius and unfortunely it’s not my speciality :frowning: … I will try to listen to your advice carefully next composition.

Thanks again :slight_smile:

No there is not compression on master… i’m going try to add.

Its a good track that there is definitely an audience for in my opinion. I am being critical to help, though I am also no expert too. Mastering takes many years to master :badteeth: and is not often the artists specialty. If you can’t get the results you desire, you could have it mastered by an engineer. Sometimes another set of ears can make all the difference.

If you want to do it yourself, a thing i try to stick by is, if i don’t understand how to use a tool, i don’t use it. I practice until i understand on a simple sample. Once i know, then i apply it. There are quite a few tutorials out there on youtube etc and some people offer lessons where you can download samples to learn techniques. If you are interested seek it out, though nothing beats doing it and just using your ears… and time. Also, ear training will really help you make the right decisions for you.

I do training everyday for atleast 15mins.

Some of the things I use:

Mr Soundman (download/ free software):

http://www.v-plugs.com/mr_soundman

SoundGym: (online ear training):

https://www.soundgym.co

Also started a thread here:

http://forum.renoise.com/index.php/topic/46837-audio-testingear-training/

Ok ! thank you for links and advices. I try this quickly !!