After many years of tracking with IT2 and then stumbling in the world of different sequencers, I feel like I’ve finally found home with Renoise! I have to say I really love this program! <3
One thing is breaking my workflow though! I’m very paranoid with windows and like to save my project with a new name like every five minutes. But when I hit shift+ctrl+S I can’t for some reason see the names of the previously saved projects, so I don’t know which number I should save the new version with (i.e. song 1, song 2 or song 3)!
I’ve studied and studied the renoise interface, but can’t see the name of the current project anywhere! I think this would be a small but important improvement in future versions. I know I could always be in the “song view” instead of “sample view” in the browser, but that would also break my workflow, since I like to see my samples all the time and it would be so much easier to just hit shift+ctrl+S.
It would be almost too perfect, if there would be a keyboard shortcut to automatically save a new version of the project, like cubases ctrl+alt+s, which automatically gives your projects name a new ascending number!
Is there any way around this? How do you guys handle saving projects? Do you always go to “song view” in the browser? If thats the only solution, could you tell me the keyboar shortcuts for switching between song mode and sample mode?
And while I remember this, is there any shortcut for changing the program in vst-plugins?
Thanks for reading this! Any help would be highly appreciated!
you can press CTRL+S to save the song with the same name
you can automatically save a number of backup copies each some minutes: look at config->misc/VST->backup (the backup copies are stored into “songname_backups” subfolder of your song’s folder)
you can siwtch rapidly to disk operations menu by pressing F3 in sequence
Is it really not possible to see the currently open project anywhere in the renoise interface?
"you can switch rapidly to disk operations menu by pressing F3 in sequence "
I tried this, but it seems to switch between disk operations and different diagrams, not the window where I can load samples and instruments
One more question… When I press shift+ctrl+s to save, I can’t see the previously saved files in the same folder, though I know they are there! But when I choose “all files” as the file type, then I can see the previous files! Why is that? Is it possible to save renoise songs by choosing the option “all files” or does it some how corrupt the renoise song?
How do you people like to save your projects safely and fast without breaking the workflow?
I’m not sure if I’ve got you fully, but let me try:
you have two options to read/write the song name:
here you change the filename
here you change the project name (the name of the rendered WAV file and the name in the WAV tag
this tab is in the Song properties menu
to load samples and instruments, you have to switch the radio buttons in the disk operation menu properly, and then, instead of the song filename, the first text box will refer to samples or instruments. This is very similar to how worked in FT2, so you could not be aware of this
I’ve never used CTRL+SHIFT+S: I always use CTRL+S, and yes: this is definitely a bug in ReNoise: the file filter is missing
as I said, I use the autobackup feature
You can take a look at RNS tutorials page for more info about file managing
My problem with the backup command is, that I like to try different directions with my song, so I like to save them like
“mysongversion 1”
“mysongversion 1b”
then I try something completely different on my track and start naming them:
“mysongversion 2”
“mysongversion 2b”
and maybe at some point return to the first approach and name them
“mysongversion 1c”
“mysongversion 1d”
and so on…
Thats why it is troublesome for me not to be able to see the previously saved file names.
“to load samples and instruments, you have to switch the radio buttons in the disk operation menu properly, and then, instead of the song filename, the first text box will refer to samples or instruments. This is very similar to how worked in FT2, so you could not be aware of this”
Is there a fast way of doing that? I hate mouse usage, so I would be very happy if there was a keyboard shortcut for switching the radio buttons?
you can achieve something similar by defining a lot of backup levels (each level renames the song as songname_0.rns, songname_1.rns, … and saves it to songname_backups subfolder) and renaming the song when you want to create a new “branch” in your workflow tree.
About the shortcut for radio buttons: ReNoise support a lot of shortcuts (just leave the mouse over a button for a second, and the associated shortcut will be shown, if any), but unfortunately not the one you asked for
As you may have alerady seen, you can change shortcuts in the config->keyboard/mouse menu
I’m sorry to hear there’s no keyboard shortcut for that. Maybe in future versions…? This is a funtion I use very rapidly!
I found out that I can see the name of the current song in the windows toolbar by hovering with the mouse on top of the renoise bar. This is very slow though, and it would help me a lot, if I could see the name of the current file somewhere in the Renoise interface. I think this isn’t propably very hard to code?
If that’s not going to happen, then I would like to see the previously saved files in the same folder when pressing shift+ctrl+s, like in every other application. It’s strange that I can see the files only by viewing “all filetypes” even though I know all the files are *rns. Does it matter if I save the files as “all filetypes” or do the dropdown menu have to say rns? I don’t know if you understand what I’m saying, but if you know about this, please tell me, because it could really help my workflow!
according to what I know about file saving and programming, what’s written in the dropdown box should not affect the saving of the file, which a different story.
Even when saving with “.” filter, the .RNS extension is added automatically to the filename, if needed.
by the way, the problem with the file filter dropdown not showing *.RNS files has been reported and fixed, and will not be present in forthcoming minor update.
I’ve never used CTRL+SHIFT+S: I always use CTRL+S, and yes: this is definitely a bug in ReNoise: the file filter is missing