is this more along like a drumfunk steez?
or percussion in a traditional/general sense like the way a drummer in a rockband thinks percussion?
btw, there is actually ‘good sounding’ 188+bpm stuff its just really hard to find sometimes. not all 188+bpm stuff is breakcore & friends.
I resent the implication that breakcore doesn’t sound good… properly produced breakcore sounds great 
… it’s the stuff that sounds like fast noisezore that sucks
Hmm… Am I allowed to make …say bass sounds and stuff out of drum samples with effects such as distorsion and filters?
dont think so, that would be a forbidden melodical instrument.
I can’t wait to get home, I will take part in this for sure.
there is a very fine line, and a very thick line.
distinguishing them from eachother gets easier an easier.
an it is all different tastes.
hear me out man.
an example of what im talking about.
i persoanlly think, anyone that staples slayer guitars to cut up amens.
is pathetic.
to me all i see in this is how they are just laying more of the already industry laid foundation to promote teenage angst by capitolizing on it.
an these guys think they are cutting edge? cmon.
its the same culture loop over and over and over again.
heh (i’ll step off the soapbox now)
to clarify this,
i want to hear the amen brother breakbeat and many other breakbeats with variation. not just drum variation, but also effects variation.
there is a ton of breakcore drowning the amen with distorsion
not dynamically, but statically.
most the time they dont even try to be creative about it.
just noisey garbage, an they are happy to be making noisey garbage.
an thats where i get off lumping breakcore and friends into that slot.
check it, theres guys doing some f****ing amazing work that could be considered to be breakcore. i dont beleive its breakcore, sure it has some of the same likenesses. its more of an evolution that is mental drums.
im sure we are close to the same page bytesmasher, i think the majority of what you felt with the resentment has much more to do with crossgenre confusion. probably my fault for not originally clarifying what i meant.
anyway be ez
an example of some i do like to hear:
anything by soundmurderer and sk1
vsnares magnificent album Rossz Csillag Alatt Szueletett
most of the stuff my friend steven has put on his label m-a-s-h records
most if not all of the releases on terminal dusk, quite abit of the releases on shockout,most everything of sixteenarmedjack,cycheouts/cycheouts ghost,amen orchestra’s 17waves,razorX, ceephax’s hardcore wick
for the most part ive been out of the loop with new stuff so probably most of that stuff is general knowledge.
I like mashnum P.I. and their slogan “sample from the rich and party with the poor”. met one of them last week and I really love their stuff. http://www.myspace.com/mashnumpi
i remember their first release coming out but i never got around to checking it out.
Hey Cdnalsi, how about being more specific? 
its fun there is also some video of a livegig they did in switzerland. maybe I will do some stuff with this guy, we just found out we both are retro-sci-fi freaks. hehe.
I mean are we still talking about the compo? 
not sure, but it sort of feels like this breakcore discussion started from my hotknifenbutter thingie…
FYI it was meant to be glitchcore, was only designed to make ya’s crack a smile, and used no amens…the “break” is made from vocal samples mashed up coupled with some obscure break’s snare sound which I cant remember (will look it up if someone gives a f***)…and then the same vocals sliced up and slapped on top for extra added flavour and fun…
…but is not breakcore afaik…
it was probably my fault, i didnt mean to throw the thread off course.
it sparked my interest about what boundries you were looking for, an ended up a discussion on i guess exactly what you didnt want! 
damn do i feel like a dick, what i was most refering to with the bcore stuff is bongra’s new release an some stuff aaron spectre mixes in his sets
Well, there are 4 entries to date, and on popular demand, I’ve extended the deadline until the 3rd of July. So that’s Sunday the last day to enter the compo.
Submitted:
Disqualified, 2 Parts
I’m working on this track with lots of percussion, but I’m also doing some melody things with different tom toms, soo to bad
Like to hear the entries.
You would probably had a lot more would this competition been held outside the holiday season
what holiday season is this?
oh i guess you mean vacation???
I’ve got a liddle short entry for you, but its in my old PC which is in pieces… (bought a new one on friday…)
I’ll throw the hard drive in this thing soon and email you if its not too late!