The Review

The current manual can’t exactly be called great ;)
This is why a manual project has been started, so
this point will be adressed in time.

Event processing (passing notes and parameter automation to the VST(i) etc)
is a small part of the CPU load, the most important part is the algorithms that
generate sample data. Just a quick look at the numbers makes this obvious:
44100 samples per second to calculate is far more than a few notes per
second. A small overhead per note doesn’t really matter, a small overhead
per sample is a whole other ballgame.

So basically splajn is probably right, we don’t have the same DSP expertice as
corporations focusing on making plugins and thus can’t necressarily compete
in that area. But we can probably make some features that are more
integrated with the way Renoise works.

(But I think Florian refered to the existing built in effects, and this might of
course be true, although it of course depends on what you compare with).

hmm…I’m probably too dumb to understand this.
Where is the difference between a note and a sample here?

While we are using the tracker more or less as a sampler with FX, when are we playing ‘only notes’ and when can we talk about samples?

I was thinking that a multilayered instrument can play more samples by ‘pressing one note’, am I wrong?
If I’m not, then it’s not different from what a tracker does already.
The only difference is that we have to play each sample as a seperate instrument. Or let’s say on a split keyboard we have to use different keys to play 2 or more samples at the same time.
Someone help me :)

thanks

A multi layered instrument, can play two samples by pressing one note, but it can also mix those two or more samples depending on the velocity by which the note is played.

Hehe :)

Not a sample like a soundfile or a part of an instrument in Renoise.
One sample like one single value in that soundfile, which there is
usually 44100 of per second in a regular sound.

Some times “sample” in this context is refered to as a “frame”,
which is analog to a movie.

just to keep from mixing too many confusing terms up in this discussion: i think he means “analogous” (similar to). sorry for the edit. i know it’s bad manners on international forums.

Thanks Martinal, Splajn and Florian!

Renoise isn’t a recordingprogram. But the reviewer probably means linear-sequencers like logic or cubase.

I started with Protracker on my good old Amiga. Then I changed to Cubase but felt never lucky with this piece of software (altough the new SX isn’t that bad . So I changed to Logic and used it for many years, and even released some songs in germany on popular dance samplers. But all these years I felt that I don’t have the real control about my songs like I had in my good old 8-Bit 4 Channel Amiga Tracker. Changing to a tracker was no question for me because I tought, the quality isn’t just good enough for commercial releases.

As some of you may know, Apple bought Emaigc and Logic Development for PC was stopped. I have now tought of changing my system, but that was too expansive for me, because I have also buy/crossgrade some VSTs and other Software. So the last two month I searched for an alternative.

Fruity Loops seems quite okay to me, but some things really put me down, like the terrible Piano-Roll-Editor. Its a lot of work to create complex sequences.

Then I tried Psycle and tought it is quite good. Later I found Renoise and gave it a try and was very pleased with my first results, and the feeling to have absolute control abouth everything. Last Sunday I ordered my copy of Renoise and I can’t wait to recieve my copy of it. I just can’t wait to use ASIO in Renoise and to rock the world with it :drummer: :D :rolleyes:

Thanks for the translation Kricke! Although I could read it in Swedish I don’t have the mag so it was very good.

There must be contact persons in the magazine, right? Or if it has something like reader’s columns you could send a mail with the corrections to them… we don’t want people to think less of Renoise, do we? :)

Of course :)
In Norwegian this is “analogt”…

Perhaps the best thing would be to notify them when 1.5 is ready,
maybe they’ll even do a new review then.

Are there any other reviews of Renoise out there? I think it would be interesting to read them.

Anyway thanks Kricke for the translation :)

[b] nah, beat calculator native plugin, all this drag & drop stuff, visualization plugins & sweet sweet rainbow coloured lego arranger is more important than this one…

…allso 3d first person shooting game inside ReNoise would be a great success. [/b]

:yeah: :drummer: :guitar:

how about a built-in IRC client? ;)

kricke - Thank you very much for translating that :D

All of the ComputerMusic magazines that come out in the United States are from the U.K… So if the Renoise developers want to get more media exposure, they should contact U.K. music magazines.

for now, all those magazines want to talk about is Reason, Cubase and FL-studio. So I’m SURE they’d be happy for some fresh topics. They did review madtracker a few years back. :P

No problem, guys! I did it with pleasure.

And Johan, yes, I could investigate a bit further into that. We’ll see :)

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got it! :yeah:

definite feature for 1.6: built in Eliza clone. So when you’re sitting in front of your computer at 4 am trying to figure out where to take your current masterpiece you can talk to it and have it console you about your artistic torment.

How about CVS integration, that would make things like longtrack projects easy to develop? Or built-in www browser so you can browse the Renoise forums while composing? Or a built in multi-player MS Hearts (multi-player) game, so you can play something with other Renoisers in the breaks during your work. Or a… ARGH! (here came Martinal and broke my nose)

:lol:
Multiplayer in Renoise :D
Let’s compose a song together - at the same time! Woohoo! B)

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