Trigger Finger Pro with Renoise

Hi everybody,

First of all, I would like to introduce myself. My nickname is Bogdan, I’m French and this morning I discovered Renoise and I really had a lot of fun playing with it. I was used to creating stuff with Ableton, but I got bored of it and Renoise is the fresh air that I was looking for.

I really want to purchase it, but there is only one thing that I don’t manage to do. It’s connecting my Trigger Finger Pro to Renoise.

I would be really grateful if someone could help me.

Thank you for having read this, I wish you all a nice day / evening.

Bogdan :walkman:

Open Renoise’s Preferences from the Edit menu (or Ctrl + Comma) and go to the MIDI section. You should be able to choose your Trigger Finger there as the master controller.

You can also set things up on a per-instrument level from each instrument’s MIDI tab.

Please note: We do not have any special support for the Trigger Finger (nor any other specific MIDI controller for that matter), but all standard plug-and-play MIDI functionality should work just fine, such as triggering notes, transport messages, CC, etc.

For more specialised support of the TFP, it may be possible to use a tool such as Duplex, provided that someone can create the appropriate mapping/config to support it.

Thank you for your help, I managed to set my TFP up with Renoise. The only remaining problem is the sync with the plus-in Arsenal. I took a picture :

(http://imgur.com/WQjAgny)

When I hit the pad 13, it plays the pad 1 in the Arsenal plug-in. Do you think that my setting is wrong or I have to use the tool Duplex to fix my problem ?

Thank you very much for your help.

When I hit the pad 13, it plays the pad 1 in the Arsenal plug-in.

Arsenal is the software that comes bundled with TFP? If so, it’s definitely outside the control of Renoise or a tool like Duplex.

Perhaps you have somehow applied a different MIDI layout … that could explain the “upside down” effect.

Yes it is the software that comes with TFP ! I hope I will find a solution. Thank you for your answer!

Did you fix this?

Having a similar issue trying to use Renoise with my TFP.

@adamyork6: you are also trying to control this Arsenal plugin?

When I hit the pad 13, it plays the pad 1 in the Arsenal plug-in

Renoise is really just passing those notes forward, so it should be a question of either configuring the TFP or the plugin.

As an almost total beginner… could anyone talk me through this roughly?

As an almost total beginner… could anyone talk me through this roughly?

Sure - starting with the advice fromdblue:

Open Renoise’s Preferences from the Edit menu (or Ctrl + Comma) and go to the MIDI section. You should be able to choose your Trigger Finger there as the master controller.

You can also set things up on a per-instrument level from each instrument’s MIDI tab.

Yes, you can set the TFP to play a particular instrument on a specific track.
By default, however, the controller is, ehm…controlling… the selected instrument on the selected track.

This is unlike most other DAWs where you have a strict relationship between an instrument and it’s track. Usually you have a simple scenario in which a drum machine might live in the third track. and is controlled by MIDI device X.
Renoise is more free-form in this regard - any instrument can (unlesss it has been “hard-linked” to a track, but more about that later) output audio on any track.

What you really need to think about is how you would like to play.
Would you always play a particular instrument, or would you like to switch between instruments as you play?
Would you like the instrument to output audio to a particular track, or the selected track?

By default, we control the selected instrument, which is playing on the selected track. But by going into the Renoise instrumentMIDI tab and selecting atrack allow you to make things more “tightly controlled”

You can even associate the TFP with multiple instruments, and specify a range fo the keyboard (a.k.a. keyboard splits).

And if you are planning to always do things in such a particular way, you can save yourself some time by saving that song as a template. Perhaps a bunch of empty instrument with all the assignments set up in advance?

Other options involve tools - the rabbit hole goes quite deep with this new one, for example. Generally speaking, tools can offer a “controller-centric” approach where you are not specifying track routings from the instruments but rather, from the controller itself.

So yeah, quite a lot of different options :slight_smile:

Of course, how you really prefer to do things boil down to personal preference, but before you can even arrive there you would need to have a mental map of what is possible and what isn’t.

Hope this helps!

I saw now on FB that you’re mentioning this

When I had pad 1… pad 13 plays too… and pad 2 and 14 and so on…

What I wrote above is of course still true, but you didn’t really confirm that the TFP + Arsenal was the main problem.
Hope someone else can guide you through this, I have to sign off for today!

Sorry… the bit about the pads had already been mentioned by sisicbogdan in an earlier reply… so didn’t mention it again… but was wondering whether he had solved the issue.

Someone help lol

Well I think I have worked out that it is an issue with Arsenal as Hybrid seems to work fine…

Well I think I have worked out that it is an issue with Arsenal as Hybrid seems to work fine…

Something to do with the transpose? Seems to be exactly one octave off.

Looks like I have sorted it and you are right! Had to set the transpose to 12.

Now it keeps freezing! Not sure if its Arsenal or just my PC now lol

Is it possible to load Arsenal onto more than one track on the demo version? That’s when it’s freezing…