Vista: Loading From Network Drive Sometimes Freezes

I use a CN3SNAS file server to store my songs.
In the studio I use Windows XP and never had a problem.

Now I wanted to make a quick remix on my Laptop running Vista.
but while loading some samples it occacionally freezes up.

When I tell Vista to close the program after waiting 15 minutes
I could not get a crash backup and find anything about the freeze in the logfile.

other strange thing is that I started Renoise about 12:00 while the log states 00:09:55 as time.

The last thing is indeed strange.

Renoise scans the file headers for information to figure out if the file is what it tells Renoise to be and if so, what is in it (Renoise instruments etc.)

If you perform some research on the internet about various Vista behavior, you will find out that Vista’s sluggish network management is a known problem and was unfortunately not fixed in the first servicepack for Vista.
http://www.google.nl/search?q=vista+slow+n…=utf-8&aq=t

File scanning management inside Renoise makes this experience pretty worse.
I really would not recommend using Vista for using any resource intensive application environments like DAW-configurations.

You might be able to fix a part of the problem by following these guidelines:
http://www.neillans.co.uk/?p=165

Or these:
http://www.ads-links.com/index.php/how-to-…k-transfer.html

Indeed not much we can do here. This is up to the Operating System to handle. For Renoise it makes no difference if the file is on a Disk, Network share, CD, whatever. All we get back is either the requested files content or an error. The OS normally timeouts bogus requests from a network. Dunno whats going wrong here for you…

To be sure that this is really not Renoises fault, could you send me your log.txt files?

And can you easily replicate this problem on your setup?

I will try to replicate it when I’m home again.
I already looked in the logs, Renoise doesn’t say anything about the crash, also no crash-backup.

With my new laptop I tryed to replicate this on a fresh Vista install
The log still said nothing about the ‘not responding’ renoise.
Renoise will load the song eventually and is responding again.

Vista simply thinks that Renoise is not responding while it loads a song from the network drive, and it’s very slow.

Same laptop with a fresh XP install, no problem again

Hey,

so loading from a networkdrive was simply very slow?

You got the feeling that Renoise crashed/freezed because Vista showed its “the application is not responding, bla… box”, don’t you?
That’s just fine if loading takes ages, because you can not change/click anything in the Renoise GUI then, so its indeed not “responding”…

It felt that way indeed, my new laptop specs are a lot faster so maybe that’s why I don’t have the feeling it’s not responding for eternity.
So I think we can considder this as ‘Nobug’.

The only question I still have: Why is XP so much faster with the network drive access?

Because XP has not the security overhead Vista does have which makes it bloatware, but the biggest part of this question still makes the Microsoft tech’s frown their eyebrows because if they would knew it themselves, it would have been resolved with the first Vista servicepack at which it obviously failed.

The problem is that Windows technically had security flaws from the beginning of which most have been patched over the years. Whatever Microsoft built, they expanded with patches and technology that was based on patched software.
If you want true security as fast as lightning you have to release the whole old concept and really start from scratch using a complete new design which means that NTFS will then be very old news.
But that is the exact problem at mickeysoft land.

I must add that I have a heavely performance tweaked XP install in the studio.
I didn’t try (and don’t know) all audio tweaks for Vista, because I also use it for leisure.
first thing in the morning is making a dual boot with a XP install.
Microsoft makes music making even more expensive this way, maybe time for me to figure out what Linux can do for me.