Very nice post and very nice arguments. And that I can understand - facts and logical answer. And at last - examples.
the ‘facts/examples’ are from the post you were participating in actively… what an ignorance
Please stop! This is separate thread and, what is more important, if OP wants admin to ban anyone, then he must present proofs, not just saying “please read whole topic with over 1300 posts and you’ll find evidences”.
Or maybe let this forum accept only very polite people who never argues. But hey, then we all will be banned, right?
And guys - you’re surprised that I defend someone on this forum not being a party in the dispute. But you’re doing the same thing, just choosing OP’s side and not trying to understand different point of view than yours. it Is not difficult to support the stronger in the dispute. What I see here is “everyone vs EatMe”. And that’s why I’m against.
i even wrote you personally 4 hours ago what you falsely claim now…
you are the one who is ‘choosing side’, apart from claiming the opposite
let go the fact that you are defending a person whose actions you do not even know about… (be it positive or negative - this is not my point)
But I read your private message, I understand your arguments and I no longer talking about defending EatMe. This discussion is now about forum I think and rules in general. You may have right and maybe EatMe is really bad person (I have not that personal experience), but we should discuss and trying to understand each others isntead of fighting and requesting bans.
After all, what I read, whole problem is that EatMe says something wrong about other people music. So what? If you want, you can call my music crap, amateur and whatever you want. It will be your opinion and maybe, if you tell something more about it, I’ll learn something. We’re not kids to be offended by someone else’s opinion about music (I think). For every person who don’t like someone else’s music you can probably find someone who loves it. Not a big deal imo.
Personal attacks - this is bad, right.
see, i never said that EatMe is a bad person at all…
i have to make comparison from the original post (since you are mixing up direct insults with opinions)
eatme says xyz is bad music, we get over it
you say xyz is bad music, we got over it as well
eatme insults directly - that is not okay
you are free to read that discussion anytime if you have doubts in the chronological order or what has been done there…
what have i learned from this subject - i should’ve stayed away from it
I agree, but I also trying to understand what EatMe wrote.
And well, not so polite, right? Or just maybe his language skills are not that great like yours. He may be using simple emotional language to express his opinion, and that may not be appropriate, but still people who uses less emotions and more logic, should understand what he means.
He may wrote something like that:
“Other people here post something I totally disagree and if you’re comment it, they start attacking you. This happened to me, my posts was deleted, so I’m warning you - be careful, it’s not discussion frendly forum”.
Is this polite enough? It’s basically the same if you read it without emotions.
And after many posts on this topic (where I don’t offend anyone and trying to be as polite as I can) I start thinking that EatMe is not some crazy person who doesn’t know what he is talking.
And one more - this starts (for me) after I put my comment into wrong topic. After two posts I was agree that you’re right and that topic was about sharing music - my fault, apologize etc.
Then what happens? Another comments appears and flamewars begins. Why? For what? And then whole topic about EatMe and ban - and it continues even if OP says that he no longer demands ban and just flag him. For what? For sure not because people are so polite here, because this topic was imo closed.
We should ask for delete whole topic (OP in fact can do that) and delete offtopic from that second one and start to be more friendly. IMO.
Some time ago In the same topic EatMe replied sarcasticly/rudely to a person and a kindly asked him to be more polite and respect other people.He did not apologize but I let it go.This time around he comes back saying they post shit,that my friend is a direct insult to every person that posted his music in that topic I created so I took action.Now I dont know you but you are really trying to twist things around and make this my fault so either you are trolling or you and EatMe are connected.One or another I am tired so I will just ignore you from now on
No, we’re not connected. Why? That don’t even have a sense. I never said that you and people who have the same opinion about EatMe are connected (are you?).
It would be easier if he was my friend - then I may say that you attacking my friend and everything will be easier.
And sure - probably if I knew his previous posts I would have ignored the whole situation.
So as I said - solution is simply - lets stop arguing and focus on music. And I’ll stay ontopic.
Good god, this is a Tracker forum. Let it go.
Stars must be misaligned
Seeing similar friction in several forums.
If you post a new topic “Renoise is the worst piece of software ever created, Taktik is an ass and fuck everyone on this god forsaken forum” then you paste in a picture of “goatse” and a large “fuck you finger” smiley, then you print out your license and loads a huge dump on it it and post the picture of it as a final touch.
Then you might get banned.
I fully agree. Discuss whatever you need to discuss here in this topic only please, and don’t spread it over the rest of the forum.
I honestly don’t really understand what the real conflict here is, but if this gets out of control we’ll of course stop it and will need to silence everyone involved for a while to not favour anyone.
So replying and insulting others rudely with sarcastic tone is allowed in this forum?
I’ve read the whole thing. And here’s my “I’ve spent way too much time on forums” 2 cents. Yeah, EatMe’s original message was doushy
(Sorry mate, it was. You don’t just jump on a “here’s my stuff” discussion and say it’s shit. You don’t. Even if you think it is. It’s not honesty it’s just rude and disrespectful (and anti-social to be fair.). You don’t know the level or the life of anybody… maybe they do music just for a little while when the kids are asleep after a long day’s work. Might not be world grade music, but if it’s honnest…it deserves a “like”)
BUT, it is internet and people tend to forget that there are real humans on the other side… and it might lead to anti social doushy behaviour. Internet sucks. And I don’t believe this is ban material or that it deserves 50 messages about it. Tell the guy it’s rude then ignore the guy.
Things usually sort themselves out shortly after.
PS: If I was a moderator (I’m not, but I often was on many other forums) I’d just tell everyone to chill and keep an eye out just in case. But, as I say, most of the time, these are quickly forgotten.
Well, insulting is bad, I agree, but sarcastic tone… Read this topic - almost everyone trying to comment others with sarcastic tone. It’s offensive IMO, because it’s treating others with superiority complex (like “I am right and I don’t must explain anythning, my short sarcastic answer is enough”). Even your answer I quoted is sarcastic. I hate it and that’s why my posts are usually longer and I’m trying to explain something instead of writing short messages assuming I have to be right.
After I’ve read three EatMe’s posts here, I don’t really understand what he is talking about. Is it really offensive? More like has no sense for me.
This is probably some post-Trump drama, and I’m eagerly looking for a way to get myself involved. <- I think I’ve found it!
I’m trying to avoid working by any means today. This works well, nice drama.
I have no idea why I suggested people to chill.
KEEP FIGHTING, DAMNIT !!!
We’re not fighting for some time now, we discuss on forum. I hope it’s not that if your previous post (very balanced and calm) was not the last one, you think it’s fighting?
The older you get the better you get at ignoring nonsense and you realize that if you feed a troll it just wants more. Our world is like an interesting painting, if everyone behaved perfectly all the time it would be a very boring painting.
Opinions are only opinions and if one person has a bad opinion in your eyes, then there are several billions more opinions to take from. Don’t let one opinion ruin your day. Laugh it off, ignore it and let it go.
If you practice this every day, then by the time you reach 80 years old you don’t give a shit about anything.