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#26 slippycurb

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Posted 05 January 2010 - 23:43

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 21:11

I hope i didnt kill this thread, before i said anything it was quite good. You could do this in an effect coloumn or by various ingenius methods that are shinier than mine but how about Rewiring Renoise to Ableton, throwing an SF on the best piece of music you have ever written, followed by an automation device that sends the midi data across the road to Ableton's BPM counter.
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Posted 23 February 2010 - 03:19

My favorite simple technique so far is:

Track 1: funky drum loop (with a gain set to zero after the signal follower to mute it)
Track 2: A constant bass sample with a filter (usually lowpass, but experiment!) The signal follower controls the filter's cutoff

= instant funky bass synth line.

I also use Signal Follower -> Delay -> Signal Follower -> Delay -> Signal Follower to make some interesting effects by controlling multiple tracks or instruments but varying the rhythm. I'm still exploring. I love this new tool!

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 04:20

My favorite simple technique so far is:

Track 1: funky drum loop (with a gain set to zero after the signal follower to mute it)
Track 2: A constant bass sample with a filter (usually lowpass, but experiment!) The signal follower controls the filter's cutoff

= instant funky bass synth line.


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Posted 27 February 2010 - 09:30

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Posted 28 February 2010 - 12:11

Kick or lowpass filtered drums -> SF -> bass freq in EQ for subgroup instruments without drums. Love automate EQ by SF. The same with vocals. Vocal track to SF and SF controls vocal range frequency in subgroup by making some cut in EQ subgroup and little boost (or not) on vocals. Nice tip is use this with chorus on 2nd vocal track.

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 14:28

The Renoise Vocal Rider (native waves rider type thing) AKA the waves aint getting my cash signal follower trick :rolleyes:

- trigger your vocals on two tracks, eg track 1 and track 2.
- in track one you load the signal follower, and kill the post volume.
- send the signal follower to the volume of track two.

and thats pretty much it.

you can use it to either make the vox pump a bit more, or to calm over enthusiastic parts.

also its programmable via commands of course, eg: want to calm a certain section a little more? use the volume commands on the section of the muted track. Just thought of this idea and havent tried it out but i think its doable.

i've also tried it on acoustic guitar, and it can spice up a performance.

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 15:06

Whatever we do with it, we will always need a rubber sheet to catch the drips.


This is Renoise in a nutshell, hahaha!

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 15:26

The Renoise Vocal Rider (native waves rider type thing) AKA the waves aint getting my cash signal follower trick :rolleyes:

- trigger your vocals on two tracks, eg track 1 and track 2.
- in track one you load the signal follower, and kill the post volume.
- send the signal follower to the volume of track two.


ur making it yourself too complicated man. you don't need to trigger the same sample twice. you can just go like this:
signal follower -> gainer. done. :)

or did i misunderstood something?
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Posted 02 March 2010 - 18:29

My favorite simple technique so far is:

Track 1: funky drum loop (with a gain set to zero after the signal follower to mute it)
Track 2: A constant bass sample with a filter (usually lowpass, but experiment!) The signal follower controls the filter's cutoff

= instant funky bass synth line.

I also use Signal Follower -> Delay -> Signal Follower -> Delay -> Signal Follower to make some interesting effects by controlling multiple tracks or instruments but varying the rhythm. I'm still exploring. I love this new tool!

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Someone really should gather a xrns file showing off all sort of signal follower tricks. I'm too unimaginative :(

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 07:34

just all tips together and just this...some kind of algorythmich stuff http://www.sendspace.com/file/wvi0om

i guess its my new track lol

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 03:25

ur making it yourself too complicated man. you don't need to trigger the same sample twice. you can just go like this:
signal follower -> gainer. done. :)

or did i misunderstood something?



haha d'oh!

i started off trying using two tracks so it never occured to me to just use one track.....

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 07:52

A simple tryout at doing an autowah! XRNS (2.6b1)

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 13:02

A simple tryout at doing an autowah! XRNS (2.6b1)


Hmm, same here..
Why do you make it yourself complicated and trigger the same sample twice? You could simply put the signal follower (plus its lfo) in front of the dsp chain..

Really don't understand this habit, where does it come from? :mellow:
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 13:42

Hmm, same here..
Why do you make it yourself complicated and trigger the same sample twice? You could simply put the signal follower (plus its lfo) in front of the dsp chain..

Really don't understand this habit, where does it come from? :mellow:


Because I'm stupid :(

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Posted 24 August 2010 - 13:48

To keep my mixes clean I sometimes use the signal follower to simulate a kind of gated reverb. Just follow the original signal and trigger the dry/wet amount of your reverb with it. Full track amplitude = your max. wet amount. Dry/wet settings of course depend on your needs. Makes your instruments sound huge while playing without filling the whole mix with unwanted reverb tails afterwards.

Same works vice versa for delays. To prevent muddy freqs and too much chaos I sometimes use the signal follower to make a track suppress its own delay effect, triggering (supressing) the send amount with the original signal.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 13:50

Great thread.. I bump it, just in case recent members of the forum haven't seen it. Sometimes with the features my brain goes like this too :panic: lol.. than I don't try them out, and then I don't figure out how easy they are.. lol.. so I just tried the signal follower this morning, because I was dying for some ducked arpeggio bassline stuff... the signal follower is the totally the way to do it.. and its so easy!!! Ah! Mysteries of Renoise...
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 22:50

i'm glad people still like to mess with the follower :)
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 23:04

i'm glad people still like to mess with the follower :)


It's an irreplaceable tool for me. Great for shaping drum sounds and doing side-compression.

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 16:36

I mainly use signal follower just like envelope follower in synths, or like in moog's mf-107. You can apply it to frequency in ring modulation or filter cutoff or pitch or lfo frequency etc. Anyway, it works best with guitar, stabs etc where amplitude often changes.


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Posted 16 October 2012 - 23:20

Automating the signal follower's controls can add another level of effect.

For instance, an lfo on the 'min' or 'max' can add 'randomness'. Sometimes it's fun/cool/useful to automate 'attack', 'release', or 'sensitivity'.

Having vocals open the Q on BR filters of other, competing instruments; for instance, if the vocals are 'strong' in the 500hz range, have those same vocals 'opening a q' on a BR filter set to 500hz on the guitar track.

Having the vocals tweak the other instruments' eq/filtering seems more subtle than simply 'riding' the volume of the competing track(s) (which is what i used to do with the follower, in order to clear sonic space for the vox).

While the 'ducking' or 'boosting' or 'pumping' aspects of the signal follower are very cool; one of my favorites has to be connecting the follower into a vsti's arp speed control.

Anyway, there are a lot of great ideas here.

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 09:01

 

Do you know if there is something like the Renoise Signal Follower but as hardware effect-processor out there?
 

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