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#1 Land of Bits

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Posted 27 August 2017 - 23:10

Hi guys

there are some useful threads about where to download some really cool free Vst's and samples

but im wonder which are your favorite paid vsts instruments and effects

im not asking if you actually own this plugins just which ones you like the most

 

i notice that Bazille its one the Renoise users like a lot :)

 

i personally love Image Line's HARMOR...but an additive synth like harmor needs several minutes of tweaking and messing with the line editor to get really cool sound mostly cause if you mess with it in a traditional way of programming  ..for instance a sustractive synth....its a bit difficult to get rid of the strong sense of a digital sound that it produces :(...i mean its a beast for modern bass sounds and neuro and such..actually all types of sounds but is time consuming to setup great stuff with it

 

anyway please ...comment your favorite vsts here ...and how good they integrate with renoise :)



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Posted 28 August 2017 - 07:27

Korg M1.

Roland D-50.

 

Those are my two favorites. (Korg M1 works just fine, but I haven't tried D-50 in Renoise)


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Posted 28 August 2017 - 08:53

Overtone DSP (all great)

Glitch 2

Discovery Pro (discoDSP)

Aspect (Loomer)

Monique (Monoplugs)

 

I use a lot of free plugins though. 


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Posted 28 August 2017 - 11:06

I like Avenger, it is a decent workstation VSTi and capable of almost everything you want (more than EDM, as the presets may suggest). The GUI is very logical structured and helps for a quick result. Plus there are slow but constant updates including new features. It's not perfect, but good. It comes will a whole bunch of studio class fx, even with reverb by artsacoustic, and very inspiring professional presets. For me it slowly will become a substitute for my old kong m3/radias. There is a downside though, it still is ridiculously cpu intensive, in contradiction to what reports say. A single voice may take not much, but it quickly will sum up and will kill even the strongest cpu. So there is lot of room for optimisation. Also the plugin is a bit unstable on macOS on loading, the devs obviously are working under windows normally.


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Posted 28 August 2017 - 12:34

looted: bazille, lush101, geist, redux. need: lounge lizard, microtonic, synthmaster, hive, harmor, helix, diversion, poly-kb, curve, aalto, diva, retrologue
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Posted 30 August 2017 - 03:20

sorry to interrupt, just had to say, HOLY SHIT THERE'S A D-50 PLUGIN!!!!!

edit: i should contribute something:

love the Korg digital plugs (M1 and Wavestation)
MPowersynth (just awesome and very deep)
Serum

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Posted 30 August 2017 - 08:31

WTB: UVI Falcon.

 

sorry to interrupt, just had to say, HOLY SHIT THERE'S A D-50 PLUGIN!!!!!

 

I know! Roland cloud is golden. They've said on their FB page that they pretty much plan to model "all" of their old synths as VSTi:s - including the JV series with expansions, JD-990 et c.


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Posted 30 August 2017 - 10:47

i 'm not sure if there's any merit to what i'm gonna write here, but the thread got me itchy to share my thoughts...

as background, i've been doing productions since 1994 and have had the pleasure and honor to work sometimes with amazing gear...(ssls etc) i also have an audio engineering degree,

 

what i realized building my up to standards project studio, was the huge gap between daws and golden ear desks and modules of the past, so what i tried to do was spend my money a) on actual real room correction and monitoring, and cool.png on ITB summing solutions. after that was done to a succesful degree, i focussed on certain processors that reflected how i think of stuff... ie i invested in the filtrate eq cause it allows me to eq musically.  what i'm trying to say here is that through my endless failures as an audio engineer, there came a few modules that i respect enough to buy but that was the product of effort and experience and mainly awareness of what your problems are, and how you might buy a tool that solves those problems. . so i am not sure to what extent suggesting something as a plugin name does anyone any good...

 

hope this make sense, cause it kind of tries to prepare you for loads of shit that are part and parcel with modern music production but it's not readilly available marketing material....


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Posted 30 August 2017 - 13:07

Reaktor 6 ..for almost everything , recently a guy ( salamanderanagram ) created fron cable patching , together with some unified blocks ( all audio rate ) ..We've got our own bazille like instrument ..

I definately want to buy uvi falcon , only thing holding me back is the e licenser .

Roland cloud plugins ..pay per month ..? .

A year ago you could just buy their plugins , now you can only rent them ..

NOt interested 


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Posted 30 August 2017 - 13:19

Reaktor 6 ..for almost everything , recently a guy ( salamanderanagram ) created fron cable patching , together with some unified blocks ( all audio rate ) ..We've got our own bazille like instrument ..

I definately want to buy uvi falcon , only thing holding me back is the e licenser .

Roland cloud plugins ..pay per month ..? .NOt interested 

man Reaktor its one of my favorite softwares evermade even if you dont dig for more cool stuff in the user library the very own factory selection its pure gold

Photone, Metaphisical Funktion, splitter. are some of my favorite

 

actually i still dont know why more people dont use Reaktor

 

By the Way after  i started this post a company i approach like a month ago ...reach me back offering me a free copy of its main product in exchange for 50 presets....im so excited about it cause i really like this plugin :)

next week youre going to hear more about this project :)



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Posted 30 August 2017 - 13:26

UVI falcon is for me a no go, because of the dongle. The Roland cloud thing, too. Give me the D50 as single one time payment, and I would buy it.


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Posted 30 August 2017 - 13:34

Regarding Roland Cloud, I was sceptical at first, but the subscription model is not an issue since you get one synth "for life, offline" after one year of subscription AFAIK.

 

Practically, it's like they are delaying the 'proper delivery' of one desired synth for one year. But on the other hand, you get lots of awesome synths in the package as well. That's a great deal to me.



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Posted 30 August 2017 - 13:47

hm ok. https://www.rolandcl...loyalty-program

So you can pick one single instrument after 12 months. So the D50 costs 240 EUR USD, which is way too high for me, since none of the other stuff does interest me. In comparison Korg M1 costs 50 USD, which is a fair price for a legacy tech emulation.


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Posted 30 August 2017 - 18:31

I'm all over these new Roland releases, can't believe I didn't hear of them till this thread.

As a former D-50 owner, the plugin captures it very well. I'm just doing te 30 day trial for now, so far everything works great, will make a purchasing decision after playing with them for a few weeks. I dislike the subscription model and find the lotalty program single license overpriced (it wasnt long ago you could pick up a real D-50 for about the same price, though these days theyre more expensive, like 500-700US) but, man, I love the old Roland synths and have fantasized about a proper D-50 emu for years. Worth it.

One thing to note about the M1 and other Korg plugs -- they havent been updated since 2013 and are very likely abandoned, at least the VST version (they also ported it to mobile and appear to be still updating that version, which is based on the VST). It seems unlikely the VST will see any further updates, I actully emailed them a few years ago to inquire about future updates and received no response, they probably gave up due to widespread piracy, but at least it's 64 bit and should remain stable for quite a while. I have noticed that it makes me reauthorize at random, which it didn't used to do, but it's a simple process so no big deal.

I know! Roland cloud is golden. They've said on their FB page that they pretty much plan to model "all" of their old synths as VSTi:s - including the JV series with expansions, JD-990 et c.


OMG!! JD and JP series, can't wait! always wanted a JP-8000.

Anyway, back to OP topic: another very fun one from the Korg collection is the LegacyCell. Just a lot of fun to mess around with and can sound really fantastic, though I find it difficult to integrate it into a larger production.
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Posted 30 August 2017 - 23:34

Roland cloud is amazing.    I am afraid to try roland cloud cause I know I'm going to love it.   I just found out about it last week.   I'm probably signing up for it soon.  I'm really trying hard not too.......   another bill omfg

 

 

 

 

Edit...  a few hours later.

 

OH NO!!  I'm so screwed.  I'm now playing with the roland cloud instruments, and they are so awesome


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Posted 31 August 2017 - 02:13

Regarding Roland Cloud, I was sceptical at first, but the subscription model is not an issue since you get one synth "for life, offline" after one year of subscription AFAIK.

 

Practically, it's like they are delaying the 'proper delivery' of one desired synth for one year. But on the other hand, you get lots of awesome synths in the package as well. That's a great deal to me.

So let me get this straight .

You rent the plugin for a year , and then ,after a year   you can use it  OFF-LINE ?

This has to be the most ridiculous thingI have ever heard ..why the fuck should I be online to make music ?

That just doesn't make any sense 


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Posted 31 August 2017 - 08:26

I'm afraid this thread became a Roland Cloud discussion.

 

To my taste, yes, they seem to sound like the real things but... that is it. Comparing them to modern solutions I'll chose the modern ones. I'll go for the Roland ones in case I already have everything around, and just need this for collection, or maybe for the retro cinematic stuff, etc. Also I can't resist mentioning the Audiorealism ABL3 and D16 Nepheton, both Roland clones, which in comparison are quite essential for me to have. D16 Lush-101 is also worth mentioning.

 

The overall design - what was definitely forgivable for a 30 year old synth now feels a bit too primitive to me.

 

The processor load is huge (bad optimization?).

 

The licensing scheme is a rather unusual, you need to be constantly online to use them, one synth is yours for life after a year, etc. Although it is intentionally the last one in my complains list.

 

ADDED: another big NO thing for me is the knob/mouse behavior - circular movement instead of usual up-down.

 

My guess is that all this emulations are more intended to be used and really shine in combination with Roland's System 1/8 hardware synths.


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Posted 31 August 2017 - 08:39

To steer away from Roland Cloud for a bit, some of my favourite sleeper hit synths are:

 

Arcsyn

Phonec 2 

Mpowersynth

Fathom

 

All of which are pretty unique and well worth the money.


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Posted 31 August 2017 - 08:41

I'm afraid this thread became a Roland Cloud discussion.

 

The processor load is huge (bad optimization?).

 

 

If you mean Roland cloud's plugout VSTs (also can run on their hardware), yes the performance is ridiculously poor. Once I had a deeper look into its structure, and it seems to be some kind of hardware emulator running in those VSTs (emulating their hardware system), hence it has a huuuuge overhead even while playing one voice only. The real logic seems to be stored into some scripting. Scripting never is as fast as compiled C++ machine code, of course. These series are totally useless to me, because of this reason.


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Posted 31 August 2017 - 13:26

I'm afraid this thread became a Roland Cloud discussion.

 

To my taste, yes, they seem to sound like the real things but... that is it. Comparing them to modern solutions I'll chose the modern ones. I'll go for the Roland ones in case I already have everything around, and just need this for collection, or maybe for the retro cinematic stuff, etc. Also I can't resist mentioning the Audiorealism ABL3 and D16 Nepheton, both Roland clones, which in comparison are quite essential for me to have. D16 Lush-101 is also worth mentioning.

 

The overall design - what was definitely forgivable for a 30 year old synth now feels a bit too primitive to me.

 

The processor load is huge (bad optimization?).

 

The licensing scheme is a rather unusual, you need to be constantly online to use them, one synth is yours for life after a year, etc. Although it is intentionally the last one in my complains list.

 

 

yeah i was kinda hoping people comment a bit more why they like this plugins

in the case of a synth which type of synthesis it employs ..modulation capabilties ...etc

 

i like analog emulations i use Image Lines's Sawer it has some very nice filters and a killer saw wave :)



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Posted 31 August 2017 - 14:04

People get spoiled , learn a tool and use it .

Reaktor 6 has new amazing zdf filters build in core , sallen key ,moog etc.. ..new oscilators that are verry hard to make them sound bad ( aliasing ) 

Thrown the lot together , assuming you know what you're doing and your set .

The perfect example is blocks , altough monophonic the sound qualitity is stellar , some newbie users create a block NOT adhering the block standard (which means every connection is updated at sample rate ) , instead they use event rate connenctions ( primary event inputs) , so it's just a matter of ignoring the NEWBIE creations .

Reaktor 6 has it all .

I've created about 5 instruments and I use all the time , resampling in renoise etc

https://www.native-i...ll/all/1781422/

 

Other plugins worth mentioning , zebra, diva , cytomic the drop ( best fuckin filter plugin on earth ) and abl3 ( we def. need some acid )


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Posted 31 August 2017 - 15:12

My current faws:

 

Reaktor 6

Strobe 2

ABL3

Nepheton

 

Worth mentioning:

Pianoteq 5 (if you really play a piano and use a weighted keyboard) - can't live without it.


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Posted 31 August 2017 - 20:39

Here I bring a little list of a little bit of everything (for electronic music):

  1. Spire
  2. NI Massive
  3. Sylenth1
  4. Omnisphere 2
  5. Predator
  6. Serum
  7. Helm
  8. Kairatune
  9. TranceDrive
  10. Dexed
  11. AvatarST
  12. Carbon Electra
  13. Crisalys
  14. Abakos
  15. DoubleSix
  16. FireBird
  17. Hive
  18. CreamCM
  19. Latte MaxSynths
  20. Nero MaxSynths
  21. MinimogueVA
  22. Noizefield 4 Tune
  23. Noizefield ClubVoltage1
  24. Noizefield VACS2
  25. Olga
  26. Rez 3
  27. TAL NoiseMaker
  28. Tunefish4
  29. Urban Nexus
  30. Xpand!2
  31. Kontakt 5 (+ libraries)

For orchestral music I recommend Kontakt 5 and good libraries. There is interesting content and occasionally are opportunities for rebates on some packages that are worth it. It is possible that some VSTs are no longer available, for example TranceDriveI believeI recommend experimenting with some VSTI like Olga, Abakos, Dexed or AvatarThere are many very good free VSTi.

 

Check out Noizefield and HGFortunex2 VSTi's.

 

I also recommend Rob Papen VSTi's.

 

The top 10 on the list are some of the best you'll find...


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Posted 31 August 2017 - 21:59

The cpu use of Roland Cloud is pathetic.  I'm over it already...

 

My favorite vst synths are dcam synth squad (v1, not upgraded

 

My favorite fx are PSP audioware and Sonalksis

 

 

Edit = I used to use cakewalk's rapture all the time. Roland sold the company for a short time to, "I forget who," but it was right before Gibson bought it...    Rapture was bundled into sonar, and the original synth disappeared from everybody's account.  I can no longer download it.

 

 

I also loved Sugarbytes Unique v1 synth.  The GUI used to just trip me out.  It was a perfect synth.  The company ruined it with v2


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Posted 31 August 2017 - 22:07

Oh ..forgot to mention toneboosters plugins .

Track essentials will set you back 20 euro and is amazing .

 

The guy behind toneboosters is ' jeroen breebaert ' works for some dolby lab.in australia, anyway ..he has a tremendous cv in the audio/psychoacoustics department .

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