"always Play" Button In Sample Properties

[Zed (Abadonna)]

ok, let’s check how much defference between me and the most people again…
some time ago i suggested this to taktik, but he said he don’t think it’s useful.

ok, the point is make “Always Play” or “Always Mix” (or something else) button which make play this sample at the same time with other samples with turned this attribute on. i.e. you can mix few samples together and use them as one instrument. it will give some kind of multi-layering, and you i think it’s very useful for drums (for percussion for example) or leads/strings.

imho it’s quite simple and effective, what do you think about this one?

[Zed (Abadonna)]

Why not stick to putting the sample in another column as we always do?

then you have to copy/paste stuff a lot, especially with drums, and it’s a pain.

so what you propose is non-destructive mixing.

yep

The idea behind non-destruction is probably that you can change, add or remove things at a later time.

yep, it takes a lot of time to tune volumes in some percussion and snares to make it sound right.

However, when you wish to split the layers apart as a matter of variation, your bonded to the limitation of “Always mix”, which in reply you’ll have to turn off.

well you still can remove sample or mute volume or what ever, the button is off by default. don’t like it - don’t use it.

[Zed (Abadonna)]

don’t like it - don’t use it.

Not quite. It’s all too easy to say that and it would be true if there weren’t any limitations. You can’t keep adding buttons endlessly. If there’s a reasonable work-around, avoid cluttering the screen and save the space.

well… if take a look carefully into sample properties tab you can easy find some free space

But onto the problem here, I really don’t think having to edit percussion by hand is something that you can avoid. But what’s wrong with giving it some special attention, it’s a good habit. Prefab music is baaaad.

true, but new features also gives us new thoughts and ideas… after all i didn’t ask for “make cool tune” button…

[taktik]

well… if take a look carefully into sample properties tab you can easy find some free space

wich will be soon filled up with a pan slider (wich you also requested before : )

You idea sounds like a hack too me. I would like to do it nice and complete while we redesign the whole *.rni structure.

[Zed (Abadonna)]

wich will be soon filled up with a pan slider (wich you also requested before : )

hehe… well, i’ve suggested a lot… but you even didn’t “mute dry” in delay

You idea sounds like a hack too me. I would like to do it nice and complete while we redesign the whole *.rni structure.

of course it sounds like a hack, but the redesign won’t happen tommorow… i don’t ask for big button for half of screen, make it as 1-pixel secret button and i will be happy to use it. i don’t care how it looks like, i care how effective it before we got something better.

[twilek]

make it as 1-pixel secret button and i will be happy to use it.

Yes, and let people who do not know about it think it is bug when they by coincidence just happen to click on it.

To be honest I do not think this idea is very good. It do not just sounds like a hack, it sounds like an almost useless freature that only going to confuse more than it makes good. If this is a substitute for multi-layered samples this is in my opinion not even an option. I say: developers, put your time on more meaningfull features, real multi-layered samples for example

[Johan]

hehe… well, i’ve suggested a lot… but you even didn’t “mute dry” in delay

Now that is a feature I’ve missed a couple of times… It doesn’t seem to be consistent between effects. I.e. many have both wet and dry sliders whereas reverb and delay have no dry slider.

[It-Alien]

If this is a substitute for multi-layered samples this is in my opinion not even an option.

and indeed it is not: multilayering is something really more complex.

For example, how could you dinamically control the mixing level of each layer?

no no, let’s wait for RNI v.2

[splajn]

Maybe you don´t have to redesign the whole instrument structure, but add a new type of instrument that is multi-layered.
This could then consist of normal instruments that are layered?

[Zed (Abadonna)]

Maybe you don´t have to redesign the whole instrument structure, but add a new type of instrument that is multi-layered.
This could then consist of normal instruments that are layered?

ah… i don’t think some one will listen to you now… they want get perfect (RNI v.2) for one day, they have not heard that only evolution gives perfect…