Average Track Levels Pre/Post

What’s considered to be the best average level for each track within renoise (pre & post)?

I’m not talking about the Master Track, I’m reffering to individual tracks. What should be the best threshold in Db for each track, that would give ample headroom?

why would this matter? :)

Sound quality. Big issue is lack of headroom available in digital world. I was told that each track should be +4DBU, which is the professional standard for analog mixes, freeing up precious headroom so tracks don’t hit the digital ceiling. I don’t know, that’s why I’m asking? I was told that everything in your DAW should be around -20, that doesn’t seem right? i wish someone could clear this up for me.


Well as it’s 32bit floating point it is impossible to clip and there is infinite headroom so in some ways it’s not worth worrying about at all.

Except many plugins will not be 32bit float and will be distorted to F*%K if you’re not careful.

But as all sounds and frequencies may want different presence/levels in your final track it is kinda impossible to answer your question.

Although I personally try and start with sounds being between -6db to -12dB when layering my first sounds in a track.

Can you explain 32bit floating point as i am a beginner?

So, I’m guessing it’s only the master track which i need to watch out for?

So, i don;t need a trim plug in like this before all my insert effects?

Why would you need to use something like that when Renoise has the Vol/Pan device at the beginning of the chain anyway? And you can set Instrument levels before that even.

Search the forum or Google. There is plenty on 32bit float out there.

But as I said, if you’re going to be using third party plug ins (and the fact you have linked to one implies you are) you are probably going to want to mind your headroom as it may be unlikely they all operate with 32bit float. And it’s good practice at the end of the day anyway to be honest.

but always remember the most important tool is your ears!!

yep, ears rule!

I always have every sound as silent as possible at the start, gradually working the volume up by ear

Depends totally, each track-instrument is different. The pre mixers can be automated, so is common to change the volume along the track, the post mixers cant be automated.
For headroom purposes is important that the master peaks at -6 or -4 db. One track can be at 0 and another at -12 db (thats the mixing).

captain_mission is right. For more reading checkout: http://www.renoise.com/indepth/tutorials/avoid-clipping-in-your-final-mix/

i set my template so that each track is set at -4db.this normally allows for more headroom and keeps my mixes from suffocation

-4db on prefaders or postfaders?

I start all of my tracks at -4db and work from there.

listen to some commercial music in a another track and try and match it??