:( Bad Midi Recording. Leaving Renoise Now :(

if in 16 lines per beat what should i put the quantize at to get 16th note quantize?

Is there a way to convert all my 4 lines per beat songs to 16 lines per beat without fucking it up?

There are usually four 16th notes in a beat. Therefore a 16th note in Renoise is always going to be your LPB value divided by 4.

  • 1/16th = 1 line @ 4 LPB
  • 1/16th = 2 lines @ 8 LPB
  • 1/16th = 4 lines @ 16 LPB

and so on…

Short answer:
Yes. Advanced Edit > Whole Song > Expand

Long answer:
Yes, but it depends on the length of your original patterns. The main thing to keep in mind is that patterns can be a maximum of 512 lines long. Every time you use the expand function you are doubling the length of your pattern. Assuming you’ve used the default pattern length of 64 lines, then you can expand a total of three times before you’ll hit the limit: 64 lines to 128 lines (4 LPB to 8 LPB), then from 128 lines to 256 lines (8 LPB to 16 LPB), and then finally from 256 lines to 512 lines (16 LPB to 32 LPB).

With a bit of careful consideration it shouldn’t be a big deal.

I prefer using Mogue’s tool for this as it also automatically converts all beatsynced values of instruments to the new lbp.

I recorded all my patterns at 128 legnth, to go to 16 lines per beat, how long would i need to make the pattern legnth, and how many expands should i do?

Can’t you count and try out yourself?

You need 2 expands:

  • Expand #1: 128 lines @ 4 LPB → 256 lines @ 8 LPB
  • Expand #2: 256 lines @ 8 LPB → 512 lines @ 16 LPB

But… yeah, Jonas has a very good point. There’s already an existing tool designed for this job that I had simply forgotten about. Might be a good idea to give that a try first.

You can find it here further down in the thread that Jonas linked to: Snippet: Convert Song From Lpb4 To Lpb12

Download the .XRNX to your desktop or something, and then drag the .XRNX file into Renoise to install it. The tool will then be available to use from the Tools main menu.

Seems like these concepts are new to him (as they are to many other users at first), so let’s give him a break please? Just trying to be helpful here. :)

Did what was said, still wotn record what I actually play, no matter what settings i use.

This sucks, cubase 5 is spot on, even with latency comp, and not offs on etc. never records the note length right even at max lines per beat. bah.

you are so predictable, I knew it was coming to this.

Renoise is good for programming song, not good at all for performing them and recording them :(

Solution:

Rewire Renoise to Cubase, use Cubase for what you think it does better at, use Renoise for what you think Renoise is better at.

Horse power, running two daws, no, i cant unless i get an i7 processor, even my quad core would choke on my plugs if i had both going :(

You can simply double or quadribble the LPB and then increase the pattern size x2 or x4 (if you don’t want to have short patterns that scroll quickly out of vision) to be able to record staccato notes.
What’s the deal here?
What you want is simply possible, just not on a low LPB ratio.

Well, I’ve also had massive problems recording MIDI and CCs (note-offs, missing notes/note-offs depending on LPB/BPM, mapping CCs to record them). I would prefer to get some temporal resolution, like it was discussed some years ago (zoom in pattern editor etc).

Renoise shines at programming but I would want to combine that with playing (mostly because I’m human and have the usual genetic trappings for that, hands and all).

Current best way is to use Rewire I presume. Maybe just don’t use plugins on Renoise’s end, instead Rewire the audio to the host and do processing there?

Renoise is a tracker…NOT A DAW!!! How hard is that to understand? They weren’t created to record audio/midi. It will never work like Cubase, and most people would prefer to keep it that way.

Did you try it, or are you just making that assumption? I find that Renoise adds very little to my CPU usage when I’m using it as a slave. (RAM, OTOH…)

look, the whole point here is: why the hell would you do a post like this? tell people you are leaving Renoise? what good is this knowledge to anyone?

there are already threads about the problem you are talking about (the note-off thing), they discuss the problem in detail and provide possible solutions. this is just self-pity manifested in a forum-post.

this, for one, is complete and utter bullshit. there are loads of people who do ‘serious music recording’ with Renoise every day. sure, they run into problems, but no DAW (or whatever you want to call it) is perfect. work around it. be creative. that’s what it’s all about.

Seriously, i understand why, but after comparing the midi to cubase, wow. I like to play fast notes like fast stabs in my bass notes sometimes, and this is a no go for renoise, its fine if you program. But seriously, i spent hours trying to play in stuff live and having to tediously edit the hell out of it made me pull my damn hair out.

Never said you cant do it if you edit, I just don’t feel like having to edit and program what I play live into my sequence. I hope that makes sense to you.

I have battery 2, so i don’t really need renoise for drums.

Also, recording pitchbends with renoise is pretty damn awful as well.

you joined in 2004 and NOW you’re leaving renoise??? crazy. i guess use something else until the next version

but yea as said before you just have to use more lbp :confused: dunno why anyone would use less than 6 anyway (which still probably isnt enough admittedly), would be nice if you had a lot more resolution if i’m understanding this correctly.

Ok. Well then. Bye hexfix93.