It appears that - unlike in Cubase - putting a ‘Brickwall Limiter’ on the ‘master out’ (Mst) track doesn’t guarantee that the track will stay at or below 0db.
In Cubase, you just put a limiter on the out, and forget about it if you want to.
In Renoise, it looks like the ‘vu meter’ still pushes ‘into the red,’ even with a ‘brickwall limiter.’
I’m hoping that there is a really simple solution to this that’s gone unnoticed here. Is there some button or setting that can be pressed somewhere in Renoise, so the limiter - when the ceiling is set to 0db - indeed doesn’t allow anything to go above 0db?
Or is it that the little red light and above-0-db peak indicators are ‘pre-limiter’ and not reflective of the post-limiter signal?
Strange, works here. I put the Maximizer on the master track, set the ceiling to 0 dB and there is no clipping, no matter how loud I put the master (pre and post) volume.
Indeed, I don’t hear anything untoward happening, but that red light - and the peaks reading to be over 0db - is a bit disconcerting. It’s also interesting how others aren’t seeing this at all.
This issue has been brought up a long long time ago, regarding the Renoise master dBFS meter. I can’t remember the exact details of the discussion, but for my money the clip light can go on at -0.2dBFS depending on the shape of the transient. If in doubt, use a 3rd party plugin meter to really check.
Unless you’re mastering in Renoise, your mix shouldn’t be anywhere near 0dBFS. And even in mastering, you need a ceiling of at least -0.3dBFS to account for inter-sample peaking, sometimes lower than that again. Different limiter plugins have different qualities, and I think the Renoise Maximizer can only be push so hard before it breaks the song.
this might sound silly… but i just mention it anyway in case you didn’t realise, when the red led is blinking and you then put a limiter… you have to click the red led to reset it. also you could put another limiter after the renoise one… heh. ;]
