California Love Voice Effect

Hello, I supose that everyone has heard California Love by 2pac, I like the end of song and awesome voice effect.

Does anyone knows how to do that, which voice FX VST to use, and how to send voice and notes to this effect in the same time.

Thank you.

tupac’s voic is being run through a vocoder, no doubt being played by the Dr.Dre himself. as to how you would use one of the several major vst vocoders (the orange vocoder vst comes to mind) in renoise… no clue.

Melodyne is capable for this kind of effects.
Also a good program for pitching those fault notes of you singer into the right note.
Also with less resolution so you get the famous “cher” effect.
just like in california love.

it’s here

but this is just a way i think you can get a -sort-like result.
what they used with california love is also unknown by me

Antares Auto Tune maybe. At least, that’s what Cher used ;)

well… :)

Making of the ‘Cher effect’.

the sounds using the ‘talk-box’-effect in the cali’love song is from ‘zapp’ (check some of the discog here: )

Famous funk bandknown for the vocaleffect throughout almost all of their tracks, been sampled by a lot of hip hop artists ,most prominently erick sermon from epmd.
other hip hop artists include:

Beastie Boys’s “Hey Ladies”
Compton’s Most Wanted’s “Hit the Floor”
Domino’s “Jam”
Ice Cube’s “How to Survive in South Central”
Ice Cube’s “My Summer Vacation”
Ice Cube’s “What Can I Do?”
Tupac ft Dr. Dre “California Love”
Yo-Yo’s “Mama Don’t Take No Mess”

  • “I Heard it Through the Grapevine”
    Black Sheep’s “Strobelite Honey”
    DJ Quik’s “When You’re a Gee”
    Digital Underground’s “Shake and Bake”
    Keith Murray’s “Bom Bom Zee”
    Tupac’s “Holla if You Hear Me”
    X-Clan’s “Funk Liberation”
  • “Do it Roger” (Intro)
    Ice Cube’s “Givin’ up the Nappy Dug Out”
    Tupac’s “I Wonder if Heaven’s Got a Ghetto”
    Tupac’s “Black Starry Night (Interlude)”

for more detailed info about the talkbox ,check out this faq :

edit: it’s not a vocoder or autotune effect!! ok , now I’m quitting google and gonna have some pizza

Is any talkbox the same?

MDA has a free vst effect pack that you can download…
It includes a talkbox.

Yo, guys, by the way, anyone ever succeeded using vocoder in a voice track in RN and CONTROLLING it’s notes? Because the only program where i could put notes for vocoder to play with a voice sample was modular tracker.

I’ve succeeded with TalkBox what vvoois mentioned in a previous post. The thing is that that you need to pan your channels in order to make it work. For example put the vocoder on a sendtrack. First track you have your voice pan that one totally to the left put a sendtrack on that channel to the vocoder. Second one take saw wave synth enter some notes and pan that one to the right also with a sendtrack to the vocoder. Sometimes switching the panning for both channels will get you better results.

i got this working with vokator for use in a few parts of my aaliyah remix ([aaliyah]rock_the_boat(remix).zip) using native instruments’ vokator vst. i think i started with the ‘devine midi talk’ preset, set input A to be the file player and input B as the osc synth. by checking “midi” on the file player tape deck, i could control when the vocal clip loaded there would start and stop (i.e., by just having a note on or off). to control the synth, i created a vst alias of the same vokator instrument, and set it to midi channel 2. then, in vokator’s options, i simply set the tapedeck midi channel to 1 and the synth midi channel to 2.

once i had a result i was satisfied with i simply rendered the track to a new sample and didn’t have to worry about all the settings anymore. kind of a pain in the ass to setup, and i guess not very practical for extended periods of vocoding, but it works =)

i also found waves’ morphoder to have a nice clean vocoded sound without a lot of tweaking, but since it’s a vst effect and not an instrument, i don’t know of any way of controlling the midi notes

Thanks to vvoois for the suggestion and to Rick for the explanation.
Didn’t think it’s that easy to get a vocoder to work in Renoise.
Very good thing that mda Talkbox.