Can Linux Be Multimedia Os?!

Hm, I’m not trying top open thread ware between OS, but I would like to give a try to Linux.
Only reason I still using Windows is:

  1. Renoise
  2. CubaseSX (just for adding voice to renoise music)
  3. drivers for my sound card, Egosys Waveterminal 2496

Recently I have found thah Sk@letracker release first version of great tracker for LinuxOS, so now only thing is to me is to find or figure it out is it possible for my card to work under Linux?

Any other people here maybe interessted to make music under Linux?
Some software for linux, wave editor, cubaseSX like software (just need as wav sequencer etc…).

Thank you.

I hope that renoise crew will have nothing against this post.

Why should we ? We do not autoreplace the word Sk@le with Slim or Stinky whatever :)

No, really. No need to worry …

not me, at the moment.

I have a registered Windows copy, registered VST instruments and of course registered ReNoise, plus lots of freeware stuff for Internet, file viewing, audio, graphics, programming.

I would switch to Linux only if it would be a better solution for me, which at the moment is is not, and not because of the registered stuff, but because there is no good replacement for ReNoise+VST on Linux (don’t tell me about Windows emulators, because that would be just ridicolous since I own a registered copy of Windows…)

i would totally make music on linux.

the linux operating system and x window system have optimization for performance and usability as their primary objective. MS windows is hampered in it’s ability to be a stable and performance oriented operating platform by several factors:

-it’s already the most widespread so it doesn’t have to exert itself to gain users.
-it contains proprietary microsoft products that come integrated into the OS and reduce system performance.
-there is a documented (since win98 i think) memory leak that drops 28bytes out of your total memory pool whenever you exit an application (hence the necessity to reboot periodically)
-it is the most virus and spyware prone OS in existance, hence necessitating virus scanners and spybots which have to sit in the background if you know what’s good for you, and take up processing slices.

i’m sure there;s more but that’s just off the top of my head.

-linux tends to be designed so that the user can configure it to be optimal for the tasks the user prefers.(for example: the agnula project which is revamped distros of redhat and debian, optimized for AUDIO and video)
-problems in the OS stability are reported to an army of fanatical coders who swarm on them and polish them out.
-it’s free so it’s not trying to sell you something every three seconds.

also, i think that if more people made music on linux (esp w/ renoise) it would add some really useful momentum to a vital developing subculture in the computer user world.

try agnula, suse, debian or redhat for optimal sound card support. and if you have any problems, Google it. linux has a huge support base (made up of users!) and you can find a walk through for just about every procedure…

…except for porting renoise to it of course =].

I don’t think you have to worry about your card being supported. There are some problems with certain hardware, but if you won’t try it you won’t know about it. :D But Mandrake 10.0 works fine on both my computers and also on some of my freinds’ computers. Just try it.

About the software: there is software of this kind for Linux. I know several wave editiors, but the most commonly used is Audacity.

There is also a nice DAW, it’s Ardour.

The best sequencer - MusE.

Don’t think of miracles. All those applications are developed by guys who do it just because of their passion. Audacity won’t be as powerful as Audition or SoundForge, Ardour is not the second ProTools, MusE is not as good as Logic, but I think that many people don’t use 60% of features of those ultra-powerful programs. At least I don’t. On the other hand, Linux is incredibly nice to configure, you can change everything here, there are millions of tweaks you can do to increase performance. I would really love to have Renoise on Linux, not only because of that, but also because Linux is just better OS - more stable, more configureable and free. Although it requires time to get used to it. It’s the only price you have to pay.

and by the way,
i’v tried using skale tracker and i’d rather use cheesetracker. skale is too damn weird.

compiling and installing programs is hard for you? Don’t you know rpm or dpkg or apt-get?

And btw, I agree - Linux as sound OS has long time to go. And Renoise on Linux would be a huge step for humanity.

one small step for renoise…


An alternative to MusE could be Rosegarden. Don’t know if MusE is the ‘best’
sequencer for Linux, but won’t start a thread about that :).

Rosegarden handles the LADSPA plugin API, JACK Audio, ALSA, and can
be runned with the VST server (which of course need the Wine Emulator
:( )

I know there are some problems with some of the VST plugs out there and
the VST server. Some work flawless, some with a few glitches and some won’t start.

Rosegarden :
VST Server :

Uhm … and you should know alot about linux :)

Anders Kallander

Kallander: Hey, I haven’t heard about this sequencer, but it looks nice, I’ll check it out!


I’ve always wanted to try Linux. It sort of looks like Amiga Workbench :)

I am personally seriously tired of Windows. It seems outdated to me. I’ve had the advanced OS/X since 2001 and it’s phat, BUT…
Windows is ‘the standard’, so I use it most of the time. Yes, I can live without Windows (once Renoise goes to OS/X!), but if you run Windows, you have 95% of what you need. (VST pluggins aren’t usually cross platform either)

Linux Tracker :

it sounds like a nice tracker. but no where near up to Renoise standard. but if you want to free yourself from windows… go for it.

There is also CheeseTracker- an IT clone, but there’s no tracker that can be even compared to Renoise on Linux. That’s why I’m still waiting…

I was abble to install and run Renoise on Fedora Core 2 with wine.
I didn’t test it with VST plugins but it worked without any problems.
Pretty stable on my PIII 700mhz 128mb laptop.

If you want to use Linux as an audio OS, there are some things you should consider before deciding anything:

  • Linux is incredibly cool as long as you like the “linux way”. That is to say that you are in control over about anything, but you need the skills to handle it. On Linux, configuring everything took about 3x the time as on windows, but i had 3x more control B)
  • Linux has something that is very superior for audio: JACK. Jack is something like ReWire except that you can connect everything that supports the Jack driver. No master or slaves! You can take the output of a program and route it to an FX rack, then route it to your DAW.
  • The easiest ways of getting a linux based audio workstation are:
  • This way and
  • Installing Fedora and getting the PlanetCCRMA packages.

I used linux for about 1/4 year and then switched back to windows :( because i couldn’t handle the lack of proper VST/VSTi support and cause i couldn’t find any DAW that satisfied me.

they just ported directx 9 to linux using winex told the germans famous computer magazin c-t (heise.) so at least you should be able to gamble using linux ;)

Well…you also can get this using any hoontech or esi card on a windows machine. They call it directwire.

The (BIG) difference is that Jack is an open softwarestandard, which makes
it possible for any piece of software to include support, independent of
the users hardware.

Last month in one of professional Polish music production magazines there was an article about music programs on Linux. In this month’s issue of Linux+ magazine in Poland there’s an article about Linux in recordi studio.

In other words, Linux is getting more popular and more important in audio production. I think that things can only get better now.

it seems like the DeMuDi Agnula build is proceeding in it’s development so there’s at least enough interest in a specialized multimedia savvy build of Linux to keep development moving. Hearing that there is press about Linux as a music prodution platform is really comforting to me. ever since i started working in linux i’ve wanted to migrate my computer operations over to it entirely. the linux community is so friendly and the interconnectivity of linux applications means you can creat really cool sets of program interactions. considering how well linuxruns on my laptop, and some issues i recently had at a live gig, i look forward to running renoise in KDE one day. :unsure:

This thread looks very interesting to me. I’m also fed up with using Windows, and a Linux-version of Renoise would be an excellent treat to help me indulge myself in learning a new OS… So, I guess question goes out to the Renoise-developers; how difficult would this be? Is it something you have considered, or is it just too complicated to do?

I think that making a Linux port is same difficult as making Mac portt. Anyway those two systems (Mac OS and Linux) have some things in common (lfor example the kernel of both is compatible with POSIX).