CLAP format extensions

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This might be off-topic, but I find it interesting that there seems to be a lot going on in the CLAP world lately. There are various extensions added to CLAP, still in draft, also a lot of established ones:

mini-curve-display.h
// This extension allows a host to render a small curve provided by the plugin.
// A useful application is to render an EQ frequency response in the DAW mixer view.

gain-adjustment-metering.h
// This extension lets the plugin report the current gain adjustment
// (typically, gain reduction) to the host.

Having a hard time to find the VST3 counterparts. I am quite sure that extensions also exist in VST3:
https://steinbergmedia.github.io/vst3_dev_portal/pages/Technical+Documentation/API+Documentation/Index.html#extensions

Do you have some insights for me about this topic ?

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In addition to vst and others, the new JUCE let’s you save-as your plugin as clap.

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Only a matter of time until VST is just history.
CLAP is the future, friends. Hopefully, Steinberg licensing will be left in the past.

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I use CLAP in Bitwig and it seems to work way better than VST2/VST3.

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It all depends on the quality of the received signal. But I think it could be used for sound spectral resynthesis.

I am sure in the future we will see a whole class of samplers that will rely as much as possible on spectral resynthesis or something similar to DSD coding.

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Is it possible to develop CLAP plugins without being a C/C++ guru? A few years ago, I tried to develop VST2/VST3 plugins, it was painful and it was also painful to find some useful documentation. So that I was only able to make some very basic things, and without GUI. Thanksfully, most of the DAWs implement a basic GUI in this case. Anyway, hope CLAP will be better than all that Steinberg mess. If so, then I will ask TakTik to develop CLAP interfaces before pianoroll, AI, better metronome, and advanced skins support.

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I am looking forward to zig because it can directly use c libraries with a bit of zig syntax (but you need to know about how zig build system work. Although it is tricky, it seems a bit better than cmake)

The only problem is the language is not finished yet which you will get some code breaking update, while the documentation is a bit lacking.

Also, despite lacking a gui, just found Plugdata can export to CLAP.

Ps:
Speaking of Steinburg and Yamaha, my turning point was when they take down vstplanet due to some “trademark” issue. They had basically got offended by a wholesome website that blogs actual free vst plugins which I have no idea what they are thinking.

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Maybe because there were a lot VST2 plugins listed where the developers released them without signing the VST2 license agreement that has ended in Oct 2018. All developers who didn’t sign this agreement before Oct 2018 are forced to develop and release only VST3 plugins.

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Unfortunately Plugdata cannot export all objects :frowning:
Plugins can also be written in Rust
I’m more interested in Vult. It’s a perfect code transpiller to C++.
Suitable for modules to VCV and Pure/Plugdata.
Hopefully we will see export support to CLAP.
Awesome language.

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Have you already tried Synthedit? The latest versions of SE are very powerful and you even can create very professional VSTs without any coding experiences. You can export to VST2/VST3 and also to Mac VST/AU.
You even can port your SE plugin to CLAP via JUCE by using the new feature in SE called “Export to JUCE”. But this will need some C++ coding experiences.

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Nope. At this point, I only tried to make plugins in C++ with Visual Studio and the VST2/VST3 frameworks, but sadly I’m not good enough to really understand how it works. I guess I didn’t take enough time to learn C++. I’m not comfortable at all with this language.