This is a track I made which contains many tracks of breakcore legend, Venetian Snares. It was actually NOT made in renoise. It was made in Sony Vegas pro 8. slicing up a bunch of different parts of each song.
It originally started out as a mix of Detrimentalist. 1 album. Then I decided to do a lot more…Enjoy.
I work in support. Much of my job is hoping the phone doesn’t ring and trying to be at least vaguely helpful to people on here. Do have a cable to run from the meeting room to a new test area once the last shift engineer comes in though…
What’s the idea behind this? I mean, a megamix’d be cool, but this sounds smacked together without much thought. Sounds very random, you didn’t even take the trouble of syncing the samples…? Different bpm’s flying around… different tracks flying around… different textures and moods flying around… I’m very sorry, but this is great music being ruined by randomness. In my humble opinion, obviously. I suggest you put more effort in it, at least give it some thought on HOW you’re going to pull this off, get the bpm’s right… or just get your favorite tracks mixed DJ-style… I’m sorry for my harshness. Maybe I didn’t understand what you’re trying to do and if so, please explain to this ignorant ex-breakcore producer.
I do see where BotB is coming from a little bit… and in a way. The point of music (and all art in general) is that it is infact a matter of perspective. I do in fact see that it seems as tho it was quickly slappped together. I do like the tracks tho. Anyway nice attempt guy. Keep trying and you’ll get good enough. Try composing IN RENOISE tho. This is mainly a post place for Renoise tracks usually. Anyway… Seee ya! [center]
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Ninja pwn3d basically answers this sort of. Its all about perspective. (sort of a different story) Of course I had the bpms of tracks in thought, but it wasn’t really my biggest concern. I can see where that would take from the track. I wasn’t using professional dj software/bpm matching tools/ ect. What my concept was, was mixing together a bunch of Venetian snares tracks to make one long breakcore track. I didn’t have a set “rhythm” in mind, other then what track to bring in next. I didn’t want to just put tracks right next to eachother, I pulled small small bits of tracks and put them together. And I agree, it is random. Its jumping all over the place. Cant see what I can do about that when this is the genre im in to.
Okay then, each to his own I guess This just didn’t float my boat at all. Perhaps because I love rhythm a lot and this is void of that, despite the fact Venetian Snares is all about rhythm. For me it was an unpleasant listen because the bpm was jumping around so much, and it felt like some Venetian Snares’ tracks being DJ’ed terribly. But it turns out you meant to do that. Still, I would suggest getting into serious DJ-software, or get some know-how on bpm-syncing and perhaps read into time signatures. It could massively improve the quality and listening pleasure of these endeavours, in my humble opinion. Genres have no rules, breakcore probably least of all, so that’s no excuse to not put effort into something.
Sorry, but I have to agree with botb on this one. Knowning the original tracks very well, I have to say that this doesn’t add much to them… it sounds like a preview of what Vsnares can do… might be good to give some preview of what Snares does to someone who doesn’t know him. Demo Reel style… but I’d rather show an actual album.
I didn’t want to have sort of a rhythm going on. My objective was to take small parts of a song and make it into a break. Im sure this would sound much better on Dj software anyways. I used a program thats meant for video editing, not audio. (Well you can edit audio, but its not meant for making songs)
this is my first time ever doing something like this. Musically I can see where it would generally lack. But in terms of just plain raw sounding breakcore, I believe im on to something.
So from what it seems, if this was done on more Dj type software, would it have a better result? If I payed attention to the background of each track, bpm and time signatures, it would be more enjoyable? Honestly I don’t see why that would matter if im taking sounds like you hear at 2:18 and 3:50 and smashing them with other parts of other songs. I believe those sort of sounds don’t really matter(I wish there was a name for them )
Basically I don’t think it matters entirely, I don’t think its just randomly selected sounds at all. I picked each little bit of each song very carefully. And if it sounds like a bunch of tracks being Dj’d horribly, you really cant compare a dj set to this. Its 2 different things.
Sorry it took me so long to listen, been quite busy of late.
Afraid I have to say I agree with BotB in at least part. Although the chops seem to work in part there are many places where they just don’t. I don’t think time signature is something you have to worry about quite so much, no harm in cutting 7/4 with 5/4, but I do feel more effort should of been made with the tempo and getting the mash-up to progress through it.
Many people complain about breakcore being too skatty and this is definitely going to reinforce that even more (but then again much VS probably would do so anyway, although not ALL the tracks used.)
And I still feel that using Archive.org to host something that is created entirely one artist’s copyrighted material is very questionable at best…
Well im glad to hear that the time signature thing isn’t a big problem.
I’ve listened to it again many times after getting this feedback, could you tell me certain parts where the bpms just dont work? Since no ones really said any particular parts of the track…