Discuss.
the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_table_note_layout is a good idea imo so yeah, cool project!
hehehe very nice!
I want one, is there a commercial product similar? Google has turned up nothing for me.
Edit:Nevermind Helps if you listen to what the guys are saying in the vid
up up down down left right left right B A start
Seriously though, this is good news. Thanks for posting. I’ll have to take a closer look at the Harmonic table note layout.
I wouldn’t mind buying a non key sensitive keyboard if Renoise gave user options on how each key is pressed volume wise, ie. sequences, random, lfo, signal follow, etc. … on second thought, I think some of that is already possible…
Renoise team should start to invest into making these.
want!
For the computer keyboard you can already do this indeed.
Realtime recording your notes is still a PITA though. Even with a full n-rollover keyboard.
I was doing some research on this topic a few months ago. I’m seriously considering building one of my own too.
But first I’ll probably try it on qwerty and see how it goes.
This guy has a little video of him playing like this: QWERTY Jammer layout improv video <-- It’s also got some links to software that can map your qwerty to Jammer layout for MIDI jamming
Love this project, nothing to discuss there. It’s something about the alternative layout.
It makes sense to start off with this or something similar for someone who hasn’t already taken the time to learn the “standard” piano keyboard layout… With standard piano, every key signature has a completely different fingering pattern. Whereas with a Jammer or other isometric layout, the fingering of the intervals is the same regardless of the key signature… Which should reduce the amount of time required to learn the instrument.
Could seriously be useful for inputting notes into Renoise.
I mean I think most of us can “feel out” the fingering on a regular keyboard (or q2w3er5t6y7u) for different key signatures, but it’s irritating and not intuitive.
i can play a qwerty-piano better than a real one, simply based on a bit more experience. still, i just know the simple chord-structures, and if someone told me ‘play a B’, i’d have no idea how. so i’m pretty interested in this setup, as it seems a lot easier (and more logical, to me at least) to make chords and transpose them.
Me too. So now to figure out a ghetto way to make this for less than $50 
regarding the harmonic table layout
a good source: http://www.c-thru-mu…gi/?page=layout (about the layout)
play it with your mouse: http://www.c-thru-mu…teractiveht#top
some chord shapes: http://www.c-thru-mu…=layout_cshapes
http://snyderphonics.com/
check out the manta, since there is no switches I think it can be cloned for less than 50$, at least easily than a project involving 192*2 switches. Another alternative would be by using a cheap touchscreen like the upcoming LinnStrument.
Very interested in this topic. I really dig the Manta, too bad I can’t test-play one anywhere around here.
I’ve always wondered if this layout could make learning an instrument a more intuitive experience, than the piano keyboard et al. The guitar appears to have a similar idea of intervals being the same shape per key, as demonstrated by the Linnstrument(and the guitar itself, of course).
My interest in building electronics is high, but for this project I feel like the Manta already has this covered WITH awesome velocity control, lights, enclosure and software. Now, the Manta’s price tag on the other hand…