Thanks for info, I was expecting the velocity to be kind of fiddly as I have the small keyboard version which also sucks registrating very light key presses. It is still useful as it will fit in my laptop bag .
Used the mapping already Created in DUPLEX to rebuild the mapper.xml from the MPD32 into a close approximation of the MPK25. Unfortunately since I cant find where to add new controller mappings to the system in Linux there is no way to test unless I install Renoise on Windows or Mac maybe since the /Controllers folder does not seem to exist anywhere.
Also not sure how to add a 25 key keyboard to a row yet and have not done MIDI dumps to find the actual command codes produced by this mapper, but there is no point in going any further since I cant use or test it until I figure out where these damn things go in the filesystem…
Did you check out the manual? Unfortunately I’m not a linux user myself, so the linux hints are based on what others told me.
On OSX, you can also show the Renoise application ressources in the Finder by right-clicking and selecting “Show Package Contents”
Q: Is it possible to trigger notes using Duplex?
A: No, it isn’t. The current state of the Renoise API does not include “realtime methods”, which would be a
requirement for this sort of thing. If Duplex was able to generate notes, their timing would be slightly
unpredictable, and for this reason the Renoise developers have decided not to implement such a feature
at this time. Until then. the best option for triggering notes would be to use your controller plugged directly
So I should not create the keyboard portion at this time right? That pretty much erases the value of this controller in Duplex for the time being unless I am missing something (which is highly likely.)
I will figure out how to hook the MPK series up directly to the Renoise API and work on Duplex mapping for the APC 40 instead. I am still going to finish this, as I am running a Linux realtime kernel so it might work fine anyway, but others might not get much use out of it.
Since you have a low post count, and your controller looks more like a traditional keyboard, I’m going to cover the basics for good measure. Consider this a slight derailing of the thread, maybe not useful…
You do know that you don’t need Duplex to midi map, right?
The reason I was trying to use Duplex is that it allows for definition of my devices, but since the Renoise API cant take realtime input from Duplex, it looks like a waste of time to go any further.
Since Renoise does not have any of the features I need to use my controllers and I cant find a way to build said features, I think I am going to have to find something else. I have been working at this for a couple of weeks now and still cant make music without manually adding samples and loops with my mouse. Might as well still be using Acid.
spydersyne: I think it would help greatly if you describe exactly what you are trying to achieve and why, as there might be other ways than the ones you have tried thus far. Duplex is a tool of convenience, it does not add any fundamental MIDI features to Renoise. It seems to me that you are just looking for support for your hardware, which already should be in Renoise as-is?
There is no way that I can find to define the MPC functions, time division controls, octave controls, bank toggles, level controls, etc. to a Renoise midi map without a lot of work. I haven’t even looked at the hardware pitch bend but am pretty sure I would have to write that too.
If I wanted to write everything myself I could just continue to pimp out LMMS. It might take me months to do anything useful here. Sure it’s a hobby and I like to contribute to projects, but I wont be able to use it for anything for awhile.
I am going to try and rip through the manuals cover to cover instead of skimming them like before, but am eager to be able to use this equipment soon, and as much as I hate Ableton and don’t want to buy another Mac tower, that is option 2 if I cant get this going soon.
Don’t get me wrong, this thing is awesome and I love it. I just cant find any way to use it without abandoning my hardware investment for the time being.
Making the tracker into something you can jam with.
It’s not modelled after a tape recorder, like some of the more conventional DAWs.
Many of us approach the program for what it is, a tracker first and foremost. So, when I compose, I do patterns of 128 lines, but when i jam… Maybe the patterns are 1 line and I build it into a step sequencer with Rube Goldberg-esque device chains to compliment the band I’m jamming with.
That said, you should be able to plug in your MIDI device, select a VSTi instrument, and start jamming away. Or, if it’s a synth, send data to the device and have it make noise. This will work out of the box? As others have pointed out, it would be great to know what you want to do…
I want to be able to assign a drumkit to the MPD pads to use. Currently the keyboard does make noise (input midi code into the track) when I assign it an instrument, but I cant take advantage of the MPC Swing or load samples to banks for banging out beats, etc.
Does that make sense?
Just trying to figure this out. I really didn’t expect it to be easy, but have no clue how to integrate the features of the device. Thanks for your guidance and patience in advance. I have a lot to learn about the interface still. Sorry to be a bother.