I have made lots of songs lately using Edirol Orchestra VST [latest, v1.03]
But after I upgraded my PC [I didn`t want to instal Win7 due to compatibility] so I installed Vista Ultimate, 64bit system…
And few [not so important] free vst instruments and effects does not work AND also - EDIROL Orchestral DXi VSTi 1.03
Do you have any clue - what to do to make Edirol Orchestral work OR if not - do you know any good smaller Orchestral VST that can be used instead Edirol!?
Using a 64-bit platform already comes with these risks.
The only plugin i noticed so far to fail on me was SaxiPlayer (A pity because it is the most decent free saxaphone vst plugin around)
It also doesn’t work in any other 32-bit host. Have tried to play with the Windows compatibility settings on the Renoise executable but no luck so far. Perhaps that might work for Edirol.
If you had to make the step to upgrade to Vista, might has well gone straight for Windows 7. Vista is a whole lot worse than Windows 7 in loads of aspects.
I know, but I had to put somehow 8GB ram into the system for larger samples and Renoise modules and WinXP is limited to 3GB…
Also I heard Vista is better as it has better updates than Win7. For example, I used Win7 many times on several companies for a few months each, tested everything - and much stuff I tried - didn`t work. For example - PicaView [or replaced now as XNView] - right click explorer menu - on Vista only 64bit program works. Also program for generating 3D trees [for several videos I used to make during last year], several video plugins for AfterEffects and most frustrating [to me] of all is → “animated” dock [pin to Taskbar] and similar crap - opening several images in Photoshop CS5 results constantly animating Taskbar with icons constantly jumping at the bottom, distracting from work.
So I decided to try Vista and finally I am very happy… 8GB system really flies [AfterEffects works amazingly fast!] except… Edirol… Bah. Never mind, I will find another orchestra vst… Just if you know some, to use with Renoise, I will be more than happy. I also had problems with installing Hypersonic - and found 64bit version - works finally like a charm!
p.s. I use DVS Saxophone - very good sounding sax that works great on 64bits
If you want something smallish you could try EWQLSO Silver. Although hilariously, I’m using Edirol Orchestra right now in Renoise on 64-bit Windows 7. ;D I guess Win7 is better after all?
[I haven’t done anything special to get this to work by the way, just installed the plug and voila, works perfectly as always.]
ouch. I dodged that OS like the plague but to each their own.
Does 8GB of RAM really buy you anything in a 32 bit application (like renoise on windows)? I don’t think it does… you probably shouldn’t need 8GB of RAM for samples unless everything’s 32 bit 96khz or something.
maybe you should just keep a system around tuned specifically for audio (not motion graphics which has MUCH higher processing and memory demands) that fits the compatibly specs of edirol orch which puts it way back at WindowsXP / WindowsMe / Windows2000 / Windows98???
@OP: Seriously, ditch Vista and move to Win7! Also, you won’t get any benefit, memory wise in Renoise, since a 32bit application can only address about 3.2GB of RAM on a 64bit OS. So you could have 500GB of RAM and Renoise will only use 3.2GB of that.
The only advantage you’ll generally get, if you’re using a sampler like Kontakt, is that things may stream faster due to Windows caching the files into RAM.
I personally have not had any issues using 32bit VST’s in Win7 x64.
I can’t test Edirol Orchestra, since it’s not free, but have you checked the obvious to make sure that it’s installing correctly? Check that it’s installing to C:\Program Files (x86)\ and not C:\Program Files, some old VST’s I’ve used have put the VST .dll into the correct location but put their other files in the ‘64bit’ location.
Omg! Looks I should go Win7! Ouch… But CS5 worked very badly… at least it didn`t work that good as it works now on Vista. Thanks for EWQLSO Silver. I will see how it works. I am on their web site now, music sounds good but no orchestral drums on vst, but sounds good.
Not that i know of, i have two versions 1.1.0 and 1.2.0, both are not recognised at all by any host.
I have 5 dat files for the library, they might perhaps work with your working copy (if it really is listed in Renoise)
djNick:DVS saxaphone is quite nice, i have that too, but it doesn’t win from Saxiplayer.
EWQL silver has a limited range of instruments, if you want to have percussion as well, you need the Gold edition.
Nowadays the Gold edition is pretty much more affordable than it used to be.
Hm, to be honest I haven`t tried to fill 8GB mem with samples, but now I tested: I filled all 256 slots with samples and VST instruments - and currently I have 5.16gb filled and less than 3 GB free. Seems like Renoise works with memory all well Limit was in XP - with 64bit system finally memory is just a limit
Other than Renoise [I just tested now] - all that memory helps a lot when have thousands of tabs opened in Opera, rendering animation in AfterEffects and watching movie - all working great and without problem.
Well, the only problem I had with system now is - it keeps pinging me when there are Vista updates ready to be installed and I need to reboot. Boring, but I hope it won`t happen that often… Also, AfterEffects flies now [x64 bit version installed!]… Photoshop really rocks. I am very happy with 8GB and I believe I will go 16GB in next few days
Yeah, load up samples, then look at the memory usage of Renoise.exe in task manager, it won’t exceed about 3.2GB, that is the limit for a 32-bit process. The reason you can load more samples now is because Windows isn’t sharing ~3GB of RAM between Renoise and Windows.
Another thing, with 8GB of ram, like I pointed out, 32bit processes can’t use more than ~3.2GB, but you can have 2x 32bit apps running and using 3GB each.
Like you said, 64bit versions of Aftereffects and Photoshop are great.
Seriously though, upgrade to Windows 7, you won’t regret it at all.
and WinXP is limited to 3GB…