How can you finetune a sample in renoise? I did it in modplug tracker all the time but since i started with renoise a couple of years ago
i kinda got a new way of handling samples and i am superhappy with working in renoise but sometimes i just want to type in a little lesser or greater value so the sample get a little bit pitched.
Renoise rocks btw and is my secret lover and carebear
can’t this be done through the 02xx and 01xx commands? i have no idea how fine they tune, but from experience i taught myself that 0210 pitches one note (keyboard key) down, so that would mean that 0204 should pitch down less, thus allowing finetuning? i would really appreciate it if someone would actually explain this in detail, as half of the time i do it by ear and have no idea if i’m right or wrong.
well, I am a guitar player and usually I hate maths . But trackers and Renoise in particular do rock, so I am very happy to do
0210 = 1 semitone (one note) down in musical terms = 100 cents down in mathematical ( “geek” ) term
0208 = 1/2 semitone down = 50 cents down
0204 = 1/4 semitone down = 25 cents down
0201 = 1/16 semitone down = 6.25 cents down
Basically, the difference is that the range of pitching with the 02/01 command is much greater than with the finetuning.
If I’m not mistaken the finetune tunes between -1 to +1 semitone in 8bit resolution. (in steps of 0.787 cents)
The pitch command uses 8bit resolution for pitching down or up between almost -16 to +16 semitones (exactly -0.0625 semitones (0201) and -15.9375 semitones (02FF) in steps of 6.25 cents).
finetuning 006 to 127 translates to: fx 0101 to 0110
finetuning -006 to -127 translates to: fx 0201 to 0210
IMHO the fx command resolution is quiet high , unless somebody tells me a pitch change of 006 cents by ear
@Mike&TheOrganics: thanks a lot man! will save your explanation somewhere for reference for sure! it also established what i had figured out myself through trial and error, but nice to know i was on the right track.
@It-Alien: i’ve never noticed a delay with the 02xx and 01xx commands. When i do C-401 02F0 it will just play at that note, without delay (i think!). could it be that there is a delay, because i usually work in 360BPM with 8 LPB?
when Renoise performs a pitch shifting (but this is also true for most of the commands), the process of shifting is divided into a number of steps which is the number of the ticks in which the row is divided. Command F2xx (00h < xx 10h) controls in how many ticks the row will be divided.
If for example you set a row to be divided into 12 ticks (which is the default), and use a 02C0 command to pitch a note down of 12 semitones, at each tick the note will be pitched down by one semitone. If instead you set the numbre of ticks to 6 (F206), at each tick the pitch will be lowered by 2 semitones, so in both cases the duration of the shifting will be one row, so there is no actual “delay” in the operation in any case.
Of course, using a fast tempo will render this far less noticeable, but if you try with slower tempoes, you will surely notice it.
This can be used in several manners like for example to obtain more “robotic” pitch shifting, by temporarily reducing the number of ticks in a row