Flanger/phaser Mute Source?

Ideas & suggestions
1

I’m completely ignorant as to how a Flanger/Phaser works technically, so maybe this is a silly question:

I was fooling around with the Phaser and a Kick and got some nice sounds on top of the drum. At that point I wanted to completely remove the kick and just keep the rest, but there is no “mute source” or “dry/wet” in these effects. Would it be technically possible, or can it already be done in some other way?

I used this simple dsp-chain (renoise 2.5 beta 4) and the “Kick 01” from the renoise sample library:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>  
<FilterDeviceChainClipboard doc_version="0">  
 <DeviceContainerSlot type="SequencerTrackDeviceChain">  
 <Devices>  
 <SequencerTrackDevice type="SequencerTrackDevice">  
 <IsActive>true</IsActive>  
 <IsSelected>false</IsSelected>  
 <SelectedPresetName>Init</SelectedPresetName>  
 <SelectedPresetIsModified>true</SelectedPresetIsModified>  
 <IsMaximized>true</IsMaximized>  
 <Panning>  
 <Value>0.5</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Panning>  
 <Volume>  
 <Value>0.9829514026641845703125</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Volume>  
 <Surround>  
 <Value>0.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Surround>  
 <PostPanning>  
 <Value>0.5</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </PostPanning>  
 <PostVolume>  
 <Value>1.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </PostVolume>  
 </SequencerTrackDevice>  
 <MaximizerDevice type="MaximizerDevice">  
 <IsActive>true</IsActive>  
 <IsSelected>false</IsSelected>  
 <SelectedPresetName>Track More Kick</SelectedPresetName>  
 <SelectedPresetIsModified>true</SelectedPresetIsModified>  
 <IsMaximized>true</IsMaximized>  
 <InputGain>  
 <Value>18</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </InputGain>  
 <Threshold>  
 <Value>0.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Threshold>  
 <TransientRelease>  
 <Value>27.06557464599609375</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </TransientRelease>  
 <LongTermRelease>  
 <Value>60</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </LongTermRelease>  
 <Ceiling>  
 <Value>-1.13114750385284423828125</Value>  
 <Visualization>Mixer and Device</Visualization>  
 </Ceiling>  
 </MaximizerDevice>  
 <PhaserDevice type="PhaserDevice">  
 <IsActive>true</IsActive>  
 <IsSelected>false</IsSelected>  
 <SelectedPresetName>Init</SelectedPresetName>  
 <SelectedPresetIsModified>true</SelectedPresetIsModified>  
 <IsMaximized>true</IsMaximized>  
 <Ceilling>  
 <Value>20</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Ceilling>  
 <Floor>  
 <Value>2000</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Floor>  
 <LFORate>  
 <Value>3.149672031402587890625</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </LFORate>  
 <Depth>  
 <Value>1.3770492076873779296875</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Depth>  
 <Feedback>  
 <Value>0.967213094234466552734375</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Feedback>  
 <Phase>  
 <Value>3.0159265995025634765625</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Phase>  
 <Stages>  
 <Value>7</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Stages>  
 </PhaserDevice>  
 </Devices>  
 </DeviceContainerSlot>  
</FilterDeviceChainClipboard>
2

One way to do what you are describing is:

Track 1: [Invert] [-> Send 1 (keep source)] [Invert] [DSP of choice]

The following effect chain does this trick, but it’s only effective for a limited range of Phaser depths.

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>  
<FilterDeviceChainClipboard doc_version="0">  
 <DeviceContainerSlot type="SequencerTrackDeviceChain">  
 <Devices>  
 <SequencerTrackDevice type="SequencerTrackDevice">  
 <IsActive>true</IsActive>  
 <IsSelected>false</IsSelected>  
 <SelectedPresetName>Init</SelectedPresetName>  
 <SelectedPresetIsModified>false</SelectedPresetIsModified>  
 <IsMaximized>true</IsMaximized>  
 <Panning>  
 <Value>0.5</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Panning>  
 <Volume>  
 <Value>1.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Volume>  
 <Surround>  
 <Value>0.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Surround>  
 <PostPanning>  
 <Value>0.5</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </PostPanning>  
 <PostVolume>  
 <Value>1.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </PostVolume>  
 </SequencerTrackDevice>  
 <GainerDevice type="GainerDevice">  
 <IsActive>true</IsActive>  
 <IsSelected>true</IsSelected>  
 <SelectedPresetName>Init</SelectedPresetName>  
 <SelectedPresetIsModified>true</SelectedPresetIsModified>  
 <IsMaximized>true</IsMaximized>  
 <Volume>  
 <Value>1.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Mixer and Device</Visualization>  
 </Volume>  
 <Panning>  
 <Value>0.5</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Panning>  
 <LPhaseInvert>true</LPhaseInvert>  
 <RPhaseInvert>true</RPhaseInvert>  
 </GainerDevice>  
 <SendDevice type="SendDevice">  
 <IsActive>true</IsActive>  
 <IsSelected>false</IsSelected>  
 <SelectedPresetName>Init</SelectedPresetName>  
 <SelectedPresetIsModified>false</SelectedPresetIsModified>  
 <IsMaximized>true</IsMaximized>  
 <SendAmount>  
 <Value>1.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Mixer and Device</Visualization>  
 </SendAmount>  
 <DestSendTrack>  
 <Value>0.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </DestSendTrack>  
 <MuteSource>false</MuteSource>  
 </SendDevice>  
 <PhaserDevice type="PhaserDevice">  
 <IsActive>true</IsActive>  
 <IsSelected>false</IsSelected>  
 <SelectedPresetName>Init</SelectedPresetName>  
 <SelectedPresetIsModified>true</SelectedPresetIsModified>  
 <IsMaximized>true</IsMaximized>  
 <Ceilling>  
 <Value>20</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Ceilling>  
 <Floor>  
 <Value>1166.3934326171875</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Floor>  
 <LFORate>  
 <Value>0.23893442749977112</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </LFORate>  
 <Depth>  
 <Value>1.5737705230712891</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Depth>  
 <Feedback>  
 <Value>0.99590164422988892</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Feedback>  
 <Phase>  
 <Value>3.0932583808898926</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Phase>  
 <Stages>  
 <Value>4</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Stages>  
 </PhaserDevice>  
 <GainerDevice type="GainerDevice">  
 <IsActive>true</IsActive>  
 <IsSelected>false</IsSelected>  
 <SelectedPresetName>Init</SelectedPresetName>  
 <SelectedPresetIsModified>true</SelectedPresetIsModified>  
 <IsMaximized>true</IsMaximized>  
 <Volume>  
 <Value>1.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Mixer and Device</Visualization>  
 </Volume>  
 <Panning>  
 <Value>0.5</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Panning>  
 <LPhaseInvert>true</LPhaseInvert>  
 <RPhaseInvert>true</RPhaseInvert>  
 </GainerDevice>  
 </Devices>  
 </DeviceContainerSlot>  
</FilterDeviceChainClipboard>

To me, it sounds rather like running a couple of tight bandpass Filters off an LFO, like this:

(For the track to be affected)

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>  
<FilterDeviceChainClipboard doc_version="0">  
 <DeviceContainerSlot type="SequencerTrackDeviceChain">  
 <Devices>  
 <SequencerTrackDevice type="SequencerTrackDevice">  
 <IsActive>true</IsActive>  
 <IsSelected>false</IsSelected>  
 <SelectedPresetName>Init</SelectedPresetName>  
 <SelectedPresetIsModified>false</SelectedPresetIsModified>  
 <IsMaximized>true</IsMaximized>  
 <Panning>  
 <Value>0.5</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Panning>  
 <Volume>  
 <Value>1.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Volume>  
 <Surround>  
 <Value>0.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Surround>  
 <PostPanning>  
 <Value>0.5</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </PostPanning>  
 <PostVolume>  
 <Value>1.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </PostVolume>  
 </SequencerTrackDevice>  
 <LfoDevice type="LfoDevice">  
 <IsActive>true</IsActive>  
 <IsSelected>true</IsSelected>  
 <SelectedPresetName>Init</SelectedPresetName>  
 <SelectedPresetIsModified>true</SelectedPresetIsModified>  
 <IsMaximized>true</IsMaximized>  
 <DestTrack>  
 <Value>-1</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </DestTrack>  
 <DestEffect>  
 <Value>2</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </DestEffect>  
 <DestParameter>  
 <Value>0.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </DestParameter>  
 <Amplitude>  
 <Value>1.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Amplitude>  
 <Offset>  
 <Value>0.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Offset>  
 <Frequency>  
 <Value>3.75</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Frequency>  
 <Type>  
 <Value>0.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Type>  
 <CustomEnvelope>  
 <PlayMode>Linear</PlayMode>  
 <Length>64</Length>  
 <ValueQuantum>0.0</ValueQuantum>  
 <Polarity>Unipolar</Polarity>  
 <Points>  
 <Point>0,0.0</Point>  
 <Point>63,1.0</Point>  
 </Points>  
 </CustomEnvelope>  
 <CustomEnvelopeOneShot>false</CustomEnvelopeOneShot>  
 </LfoDevice>  
 <HydraDevice type="HydraDevice">  
 <IsActive>true</IsActive>  
 <IsSelected>false</IsSelected>  
 <SelectedPresetName>Init</SelectedPresetName>  
 <SelectedPresetIsModified>true</SelectedPresetIsModified>  
 <IsMaximized>true</IsMaximized>  
 <VisiblePages>1</VisiblePages>  
 <InputValue>  
 <Value>0.63782596588134766</Value>  
 <Visualization>Mixer and Device</Visualization>  
 </InputValue>  
 <Out1DestTrack>  
 <Value>9</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out1DestTrack>  
 <Out1DestEffect>  
 <Value>1.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out1DestEffect>  
 <Out1DestParameter>  
 <Value>1.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out1DestParameter>  
 <Out1Min>  
 <Value>0.22947849333286285</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out1Min>  
 <Out1Max>  
 <Value>0.82040786743164063</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out1Max>  
 <Out1Scaling>Linear</Out1Scaling>  
 <Out2DestTrack>  
 <Value>10</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out2DestTrack>  
 <Out2DestEffect>  
 <Value>1.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out2DestEffect>  
 <Out2DestParameter>  
 <Value>1.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out2DestParameter>  
 <Out2Min>  
 <Value>0.59144049882888794</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out2Min>  
 <Out2Max>  
 <Value>0.23009571433067322</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out2Max>  
 <Out2Scaling>Linear</Out2Scaling>  
 <Out3DestTrack>  
 <Value>-1</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out3DestTrack>  
 <Out3DestEffect>  
 <Value>5</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out3DestEffect>  
 <Out3DestParameter>  
 <Value>1.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out3DestParameter>  
 <Out3Min>  
 <Value>0.059863951057195663</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out3Min>  
 <Out3Max>  
 <Value>0.56099700927734375</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out3Max>  
 <Out3Scaling>Exp Slow</Out3Scaling>  
 <Out4DestTrack>  
 <Value>-1</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out4DestTrack>  
 <Out4DestEffect>  
 <Value>-1</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out4DestEffect>  
 <Out4DestParameter>  
 <Value>-1</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out4DestParameter>  
 <Out4Min>  
 <Value>0.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out4Min>  
 <Out4Max>  
 <Value>1.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out4Max>  
 <Out4Scaling>Linear</Out4Scaling>  
 <Out5DestTrack>  
 <Value>-1</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out5DestTrack>  
 <Out5DestEffect>  
 <Value>-1</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out5DestEffect>  
 <Out5DestParameter>  
 <Value>-1</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out5DestParameter>  
 <Out5Min>  
 <Value>0.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out5Min>  
 <Out5Max>  
 <Value>1.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out5Max>  
 <Out5Scaling>Linear</Out5Scaling>  
 <Out6DestTrack>  
 <Value>-1</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out6DestTrack>  
 <Out6DestEffect>  
 <Value>-1</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out6DestEffect>  
 <Out6DestParameter>  
 <Value>-1</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out6DestParameter>  
 <Out6Min>  
 <Value>0.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out6Min>  
 <Out6Max>  
 <Value>1.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out6Max>  
 <Out6Scaling>Linear</Out6Scaling>  
 <Out7DestTrack>  
 <Value>-1</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out7DestTrack>  
 <Out7DestEffect>  
 <Value>-1</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out7DestEffect>  
 <Out7DestParameter>  
 <Value>-1</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out7DestParameter>  
 <Out7Min>  
 <Value>0.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out7Min>  
 <Out7Max>  
 <Value>1.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out7Max>  
 <Out7Scaling>Linear</Out7Scaling>  
 <Out8DestTrack>  
 <Value>-1</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out8DestTrack>  
 <Out8DestEffect>  
 <Value>-1</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out8DestEffect>  
 <Out8DestParameter>  
 <Value>-1</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out8DestParameter>  
 <Out8Min>  
 <Value>0.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out8Min>  
 <Out8Max>  
 <Value>1.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out8Max>  
 <Out8Scaling>Linear</Out8Scaling>  
 <Out9DestTrack>  
 <Value>-1</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out9DestTrack>  
 <Out9DestEffect>  
 <Value>-1</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out9DestEffect>  
 <Out9DestParameter>  
 <Value>-1</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out9DestParameter>  
 <Out9Min>  
 <Value>0.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out9Min>  
 <Out9Max>  
 <Value>1.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Out9Max>  
 <Out9Scaling>Linear</Out9Scaling>  
 </HydraDevice>  
 <SendDevice type="SendDevice">  
 <IsActive>true</IsActive>  
 <IsSelected>false</IsSelected>  
 <SelectedPresetName>Init</SelectedPresetName>  
 <SelectedPresetIsModified>false</SelectedPresetIsModified>  
 <IsMaximized>true</IsMaximized>  
 <SendAmount>  
 <Value>1.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Mixer and Device</Visualization>  
 </SendAmount>  
 <DestSendTrack>  
 <Value>0.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </DestSendTrack>  
 <MuteSource>false</MuteSource>  
 </SendDevice>  
 <SendDevice type="SendDevice">  
 <IsActive>true</IsActive>  
 <IsSelected>false</IsSelected>  
 <SelectedPresetName>Init</SelectedPresetName>  
 <SelectedPresetIsModified>true</SelectedPresetIsModified>  
 <IsMaximized>true</IsMaximized>  
 <SendAmount>  
 <Value>1.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Mixer and Device</Visualization>  
 </SendAmount>  
 <DestSendTrack>  
 <Value>1.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </DestSendTrack>  
 <MuteSource>false</MuteSource>  
 </SendDevice>  
 <Filter3Device type="Filter3Device">  
 <IsActive>true</IsActive>  
 <IsSelected>false</IsSelected>  
 <SelectedPresetName>Init</SelectedPresetName>  
 <SelectedPresetIsModified>true</SelectedPresetIsModified>  
 <IsMaximized>true</IsMaximized>  
 <Type>  
 <Value>2</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Type>  
 <Frequency>  
 <Value>0.22228579223155975</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Frequency>  
 <Q>  
 <Value>14</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Q>  
 <Gain>  
 <Value>-60</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Gain>  
 <Inertia>  
 <Value>0.0078125</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Inertia>  
 <Model>24dB Moog</Model>  
 </Filter3Device>  
 </Devices>  
 </DeviceContainerSlot>  
</FilterDeviceChainClipboard>

(For both of the two send-tracks required)

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>  
<FilterDeviceChainClipboard doc_version="0">  
 <DeviceContainerSlot type="SequencerTrackDeviceChain">  
 <Devices>  
 <SequencerSendTrackDevice type="SequencerSendTrackDevice">  
 <IsActive>true</IsActive>  
 <IsSelected>false</IsSelected>  
 <SelectedPresetName>Init</SelectedPresetName>  
 <SelectedPresetIsModified>false</SelectedPresetIsModified>  
 <IsMaximized>true</IsMaximized>  
 <Panning>  
 <Value>0.5</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Panning>  
 <Volume>  
 <Value>1.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Volume>  
 <Surround>  
 <Value>0.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Surround>  
 <PostPanning>  
 <Value>0.5</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </PostPanning>  
 <PostVolume>  
 <Value>1.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </PostVolume>  
 </SequencerSendTrackDevice>  
 <Filter3Device type="Filter3Device">  
 <IsActive>true</IsActive>  
 <IsSelected>true</IsSelected>  
 <SelectedPresetName>Init</SelectedPresetName>  
 <SelectedPresetIsModified>true</SelectedPresetIsModified>  
 <IsMaximized>true</IsMaximized>  
 <Type>  
 <Value>2</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Type>  
 <Frequency>  
 <Value>0.27168387174606323</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Frequency>  
 <Q>  
 <Value>14</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Q>  
 <Gain>  
 <Value>-60</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Gain>  
 <Inertia>  
 <Value>0.0078125</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Inertia>  
 <Model>24dB Moog</Model>  
 </Filter3Device>  
 </Devices>  
 </DeviceContainerSlot>  
</FilterDeviceChainClipboard>

EDIT:

I found this chain isolated the most characteristic part of the Phaser effect, at least for trance kicks:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>  
<FilterDeviceChainClipboard doc_version="0">  
 <DeviceContainerSlot type="SequencerTrackDeviceChain">  
 <Devices>  
 <SequencerTrackDevice type="SequencerTrackDevice">  
 <IsActive>true</IsActive>  
 <IsSelected>false</IsSelected>  
 <SelectedPresetName>Init</SelectedPresetName>  
 <SelectedPresetIsModified>false</SelectedPresetIsModified>  
 <IsMaximized>true</IsMaximized>  
 <Panning>  
 <Value>0.5</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Panning>  
 <Volume>  
 <Value>1.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Volume>  
 <Surround>  
 <Value>0.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Surround>  
 <PostPanning>  
 <Value>0.5</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </PostPanning>  
 <PostVolume>  
 <Value>1.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </PostVolume>  
 </SequencerTrackDevice>  
 <PhaserDevice type="PhaserDevice">  
 <IsActive>true</IsActive>  
 <IsSelected>false</IsSelected>  
 <SelectedPresetName>Init</SelectedPresetName>  
 <SelectedPresetIsModified>true</SelectedPresetIsModified>  
 <IsMaximized>true</IsMaximized>  
 <Ceilling>  
 <Value>675.08197021484375</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Ceilling>  
 <Floor>  
 <Value>18771.720703125</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Floor>  
 <LFORate>  
 <Value>0.22258196771144867</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </LFORate>  
 <Depth>  
 <Value>7.803278923034668</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Depth>  
 <Feedback>  
 <Value>0.69672131538391113</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Feedback>  
 <Phase>  
 <Value>0.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Phase>  
 <Stages>  
 <Value>14</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Stages>  
 </PhaserDevice>  
 <CompressorDevice type="CompressorDevice">  
 <IsActive>true</IsActive>  
 <IsSelected>true</IsSelected>  
 <SelectedPresetName>Init</SelectedPresetName>  
 <SelectedPresetIsModified>true</SelectedPresetIsModified>  
 <IsMaximized>true</IsMaximized>  
 <LogThreshold>  
 <Value>11.495902061462402</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </LogThreshold>  
 <Ratio>  
 <Value>5.1188526153564453</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Ratio>  
 <Attack>  
 <Value>2.4597704410552979</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Attack>  
 <Release>  
 <Value>10</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Release>  
 <Gain>  
 <Value>4.1803278923034668</Value>  
 <Visualization>Mixer and Device</Visualization>  
 </Gain>  
 </CompressorDevice>  
 <Filter3Device type="Filter3Device">  
 <IsActive>true</IsActive>  
 <IsSelected>false</IsSelected>  
 <SelectedPresetName>Init</SelectedPresetName>  
 <SelectedPresetIsModified>true</SelectedPresetIsModified>  
 <IsMaximized>true</IsMaximized>  
 <Type>  
 <Value>5</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Type>  
 <Frequency>  
 <Value>0.23360656201839447</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Frequency>  
 <Q>  
 <Value>0.0</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Q>  
 <Gain>  
 <Value>-60</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Gain>  
 <Inertia>  
 <Value>0.0078125</Value>  
 <Visualization>Device only</Visualization>  
 </Inertia>  
 <Model>Butterworth 8n</Model>  
 </Filter3Device>  
 </Devices>  
 </DeviceContainerSlot>  
</FilterDeviceChainClipboard>
3

Thank you, those are nice chains. I also tried the invert+send idea but evidently you can’t filter out just the flanged effect that way.

Which is why I still suggest “Mute Source” be added to Flanger and Phaser effects, if it’s not to technically complicated.

4

I wish Renoise would give dry/wet (for left/right separately even: -100% to invert) to ALL effects, VST’s included, as a general property. Why even discuss this on a per-effect level, I never understood that. Sure, that would require twice as much CPU for each effect when used, but it sure would beat setting up a send track!