Fox "news" Is Pure Propaganda

Outfoxed is a creative commons licensed documentary about how FOX shapes public opinion using lies and misdirections.

Here is the full length video:
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=673…foxed&hl=en

Source interviews available for sampling and remixing:
http://www.jimgilliam.com/2004/09/outfoxed…or_remixing.php

Old news I realize, but I’m pretty sure most people haven’t actually seen this movie… and the sampling opportunities are great :)

this is something i can agree with!

amen. fox news is pure bullshit told by the biggest douchebags in the entire universe.

Old news tho… or at least, Fox being a propaganda
machine is somewhat of a (European) cliché. Fox f*cks,
as we tend to say from a long way oversea.


Let’s hope they are not still around by then…

This is somewhat off topic, but I didn’t want to start another political thread.

There has been some controversy because Obama wants to “redistribute wealth”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/27/ra…ibuting-wealth/

When I read some comments from people on the right, it just makes me sad. The McCain crowd is so pathetically desperate they are using stupid red scare tactics ala Joseph McCarthy. Do these people even know how taxes work? By their definition, the only form of government that’s not socialist is a state of total anarchy with no taxes at all. Lets see, public schools, public libraries, the fire department, the police force, any public good, are all redistributions of wealth!

And even if it is socialist, who the fuck cares? Capitalism as Adam Smith defined it, had socialist elements. Rich people have ALWAYS had to pay more taxes, even under the Bush administration. Its how it fucking works, its not like McCain is offering a flat tax policy. For fucks sake, we just spent a trillion dollars bailing out private banks! If that’s not socialist, then I have no fucking idea what socialism is.

But all this aside, people are drawing WAY to big a conclusion from the video/audio above. He said the state legislature should deal with redistribution… that’s fucking federalism! Conservatives of intelligence would agree that the supreme court shouldn’t make these decisions! What the fuck is wrong with these people?!

I guess these are the shitheads who have tacitly agreed with the Bush administration and who are now just coming out into the lime light to make asses of themselves. I almost want to vote for McCain just so I won’t have to hear these idiots again… almost.

P.S. the video does feature music from Aphex Twin’s selected ambient works vol 2. so at least they got something right…

A vote for McCain is a sure vote for non-negotiable misery. Never protest vote for the worst choice.

A vote for the Democrats will ensure the progressive movement will have some chance of consolidating a lobby that will have significant influence over the evolution politics in the next four years. If you like you have the right to put your vote behind Nader or The Greens to show your support for an alternative movement.

If Obama gets in, the progressive movement will need to amalgamate forces cohesively to form a lobby and or party. It should be the number 1 effort of all concerned instead of any lament of the corporate elite carrying on with ‘business as usual’. The time for realisation and enactment of the common goals for Earthlings, and all they are connected to, is now.

I don’t know what good it would do, Obama and the dems are pretty far from being progessive. example: Obama voted to renew the patriot act (http://obama.senate.gov/podcast/051216-the_patriot_act/index.php). Progressives also have no money (at least relative to oil companies).

I agree with Nader on lots of things (most people do), but he is strongly against nuclear power, which I find absurd. It’s one thing McCain’s got over the other candidates.

Free health care.

Who needs guns when you have an independant media.

Free health care.

Might I add, the Nazi party ran on a platform of anti-communism ;)

I’m afraid a civil war will break out if Obama gets in :panic:

armed revolt is now known as “terrorism” and would likely be met by military intervention.

we need an independent media so badly here in the U.S. Tons of people only watch t.v. and don’t read any newspapers or internet news.

Unless those that are armed are Republican, in which case it’s considered rightfully fighting against evil oppression.

in which case “evil oppression” is gay rights and the woman’s right to choose

And Harry Potter books. They’re indoctrinating children into believing in fundamentalist fantasies.

Yes, but that’s so morally wrong. Most of these public services should and could be run privately. The point is that with low taxes, the choice how money is spent is more up to the individual who earned it. And that’s how it should be.

Yes, that’s a school book example of socialism and also a big mistake. Instead, the banks shouldn’t be saved and the monetary system itself should be abandoned. What do the speculators learn from this? That they can get away with virtually everything – Daddy will come to the rescue when things go wrong.

Under capitalism (which we don’t have today in any country but in small degrees), companies and banks and investors will operate under the principle of private property. That means that both losses and profits are a private matter. We need to get back to a gold standard and get rid of the worthless paper money system where goverments and central banks can create ‘value’ out of nothing. It’s a fraud and those banks should pay for it, not the tax payers.

It’s sad that to see that so many people don’t know any better that they actually support socialism. It doesn’t work in practice and it doesn’t work in theory.

Free health care.

Don’t forget the winners write the history books.
The American Civil War was fought and won by ‘terrorists’.

I’m not eager to throw anything around. I just stand for my views and have enough self-esteem to express them in the open and also defend them in rational terms (with facts and arguments), if necessary.

No, gold is a limited resource today. That’s the main issue here.

“The government has no source of revenue, except the taxes paid by the producers. To free itself—for a while—from the limits set by reality, the government initiates a credit con game on a scale which the private manipulator could not dream of. It borrows money from you today, which is to be repaid with money it will borrow from you tomorrow, which is to be repaid with money it will borrow from you day after tomorrow, and so on. This is known as “deficit financing.” It is made possible by the fact that the government cuts the connection between goods and money. It issues paper money, which is used as a claim check on actually existing goods—but that money is not backed by any goods, it is not backed by gold, it is backed by nothing. It is a promissory note issued to you in exchange for your goods, to be paid by you (in the form of taxes) out of your future production.”

(the above quoted from “Egalitarianism and Inflation,” in Ayn Rand’s Philosophy: Who Needs It, page 133 – highly recommended reading for any man of intelligence on this planet.)