How To Create A Darkstep/Techstep/Skullstep Reese Bass

I’m currently building a small library of more nasty bass sounds too for myself and came up with a few of this sort. Plain Camel Audio Alchemy and no effects, besides the internal synth ones thrown at it yet. Sounds pretty useable already i think. :)

http://www.beatslaughter.de/snippets/reese.flac

As kasmo said the synth used shouldn’t matter that much, as long as it isn’'t too limited.

I never implied that you needed to use a certain synth… not sure where he got that from. In fact, I stated in my original post that all you need is detuned 2osc saw.

Nice btw Beatslaughter… any tips for me? :P

as is sayed before, "dont get it the wrong way" but you does, my english is not good enough i think thats the problem here :)

what i liked to say is that you have to be creative in building such basses as there will never be a tutorial on how to create them, i know that you are a creative guy !
about the tutorial, i cant see anything special about this. its just another basic tutorial as many others before.

i have to quote myself here,

I’d rather be the one that can explain in detail what’s happening to the sound. I make it my mission to understand how sound production works at the most basic level so that I can apply the techniques I learn to almost anything.

Stop messing about with tutorials and start focusing on sound synthesis instead! ;) Tutorials are often just ‘shortcuts’ to whatever it is you’re after, but it won’t explain one bit WHY you are taking the steps you take and WHAT it is you’re doing, exactly, to the sound. I take it you experiment a lot with synthesizers? Trial and error on how to achieve certain sounds? You’ve got a shitload of different waveforms ready? Kasmo posted a topic about experiments with internal synthesis, complete with a pack of waveforms and example xrns. I really recommend you check that out, as it is a fine first step on understanding sound production at the most basic level.

you are right botb, i still use this concept for a lot of sounds and especially for reece/reese stuff.

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Same here! Your wavepack was a fine addition and your example xrns taught me some nice new tricks! I started practicing sound synthesis when I started killing BotB and although I have a loooong way to go, I think I get the grasp of the ‘basics’ by now (meaning I can realize the sounds I’m after to a certain extent… look! a grain of salt!).

No, it won’t… but once I know which effects they’re using, and in which order, I can figure out myself precisely what those effects are doing.

Hmmm, depends entirely on the internal routing of the device in question, actually… hence the suggestion to check out the waveform experiment, it’s much much much more transparent.

If you’d watched the video, you’d realize that the routing was displayed on the device he was using to produce the sound.

So what? I think we just agreed that there is more than 1 way to Rome and tutorials can be considered ‘shortcuts’ …? :confused: That video alone won’t get you very far, now will it?

the basics are already very big these days, i think i know the basics too but my biggest problem was to get the whole thing into my tunes. this is what i practice since the last few weeks, something you already can ;)
actually im working on a drum&bass EP trying to get intressting bass sounds, this is why i said to byte "be creative". sometimes something sounds like a bass done with a synth but it isnt.
i`ve created some midrange basses out of human voices for example and they are very close to what byte is looking for. this is also the reason why i get tired of all these tutorials.

edit: here is a very small example [voice bass](http://www.braintwister-music.de/voice bass.wav)

Methinks you’re misunderstanding :rolleyes:

And I who thought that all those weird sounding bassblurps were made with synths per accident. As an eyeopener, nice one!

Uhm, I’m thinking exactly the same… Feel like you’re missing a very important point here :P

Well lets see… I’ve been messing with synthesis and sound design for years… and you’re trying to tell me that I need to get into synthesis and sound design. No, I don’t think I’m missing any points.

hmm, then i don`t understand the whole topic. why are we talking about basics if you already know these ? and why the hell are you watching these basic tutorials ?
and why do you ignore the tips we give you ?

sorry im out of this discussion, cant follow you anymore ;)

Well let’s see… since you did not mention that, and your question suggest otherwise… so yeah I thought you were. And uhm… not to be an asshole or anything, but if you just found out how to set up a reese, it’s not really making the impression you’ve been into sounddesign for years.

The point is that the sound I’m looking for is different than anything I’ve been able to synthesize on my own… and I was trying to figure out how they did it. It hadn’t occurred to me to use a comb filter previously, and now that I’ve seen that tutorial, it makes sense that they’d be using such a filter. Just because you think that knowing the basics of synthesis can get you any sound, doesn’t make it so. There’s much more to synthesis than knowing how to tune waveforms and use basic filters and distortion. It’s plain to me that you and BotB are the ones that are limiting your experience by presuming you can get any sounds from these methods… when plainly you can’t… that vocal sample you gave, although close, was very thin and lifeless compared to the shit I want. There’s a world of techniques out there that you’d never think of on your own, and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with relying on outside ideas to come to them. This is how progress happens in almost any field, music included.

END OF BLOODY POINTLESS DISCUSSION.

Everyone knows how to set up a reese. If you were paying attention, I was looking for a SPECIFIC TYPE of nonstandard reese.

I’ve updated the first post in the thread so there’s no more fucking confusion over my intentions.