Your implication was that there’s something magical to know about compression. I don’t know about you, but I find a compressor pretty easy to understand… in fact, I could probably program one myself without referencing any literature on the subject. 99% of the shit often attributed to compression is actually just the result of having a good mix before any compression is even applied.
sorry, thats not true. in drum&bass compression starts already while composing! spor drums for example are so much overcompressed and not only one time. often producers compressed there drums, then render the sound and add new layers and use compression again. i know what im talking about !
I can testify to this. Compression is an important sound-scaping device in some electronic genres, like drum&bass. Understanding a compressor is nice, knowing what each parameter does is nice… But like any effect, there’s also the matter of knowing WHEN and WHERE to use it, not only HOW.
That doesn’t mean there’s anything complex about his use of a compressor. BotB’s implication was that Spor has some knowledge of compressors that we don’t, and I stand by my statement that he doesn’t. If you can provide me with one use of a compressor on drums that I’m not already aware of, I’ll be absolutely shocked.
The discussion wasn’t about drums though, it was about reeses.
Not only knowledge, but also experience. He knows better than us how, when and where to use compressors to shape the sounds of both his drums and his bass. I don’t care you stand by your statement, comparing your sound with SPOR’s speaks for itself. Good luck sounddesigning, I’m outta here.
Again… why do you think this has everything to do with compressors? Did Spor himself tell you so? I don’t understand why you think that compression is somehow the crux of his sound.
When a man has no logical recourse in debate, his only recourse is personal attacks. I don’t hear your music sounding anything like Spor either, so why should I presume you know how he gets his signature sound?
Okay one more:
WHERE did I say it has everything to do with compressors? I did not. I mentioned mixing skills are a vital part, where compression is a big deal for bass and beat with certain electronic genres. Also, WHERE did I state that compression is what gives Spor his signature sound? A compressor is just a tool. A signature sound is the sum of many things, you’re insulting my intelligence with those blunt assumptions and it’s tiresome discussing like this…
I don’t need you to believe me on my thoughts, I was only trying to help you. In the end it’s YOUR music and you should do what YOU think is right, but hey… since you asked, you get answers. Can’t help it if you don’t like the answers you’re getting.
I didn’t ask for anything in this thread. I posted a resource for others to take advantage of. I was 100% fine with my findings, without interjection from others… it just so happens that posting said resource resulted in people insulting my knowledge of synthesis, which I took offense to. It’s not like I’ve ever insulted your production abilities.
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I never meant to insult you and I am sorry if I did. I merely meant to help.
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a bit OT do you have the sub-bass play the same "pattern"as the wobble?
I’m well aware that you were just trying to help dude… I just take offence to the implication that I’m either not experimenting enough, or I don’t know anything about synthesis. You’re partially right though… I could spend hours, days, or weeks trying as many different possible configurations to come up with the exact sound I want to rip off, but at the moment, I don’t have that extra time to spend. I hardly have time to work on music as it is these days due to work… I’d rather spend as much time as possible composing instead of tweaking knobs. Therefore, I’m going to take advantage of any shortcuts I can… and taking shortcuts in learning, by the way, is not cheating if you’re actually learning from them. The real shortcut would be if I just sampled the tracks I’m hearing the original sounds in… and I refuse to do that because I’m selling myself short… no offense to people that sample… I’d just rather learn how shit’s done.
I’ve got some time off coming up though… so I might spend a few days tweaking knobs.
The funniest thing about this whole thread is that it sounds like you guys have the same methodology as me when it comes to creating sounds… the only difference is I’ve got no qualms with trying to emulate others… life’s too short to keep reinventing the wheel.
I understand, dude… Sorry things got out of hand. Some things you said kinda implied you missed some info, I just wanted to share what I think I know.
Actually, it’s not that I have problems emulating others, but it’s not my aim at all. I want to make sounds that I find nasty/dirty/pretty/rough, without taking other tracks/artists as examples as little as possible. Sounddesign to me is a pure creative aspect of making music: I make sound that I enjoy and put it to use in my music. Because of that, I’ve never searched for tutorials on how to create certain sounds, I simply followed my ‘gut’, resulting in many strange experiments and the knowledge I have today and of which I’m proud. I may have been re-inventing in the wheel, but because I did, I can now confidently construct jet engines.
same here 
i think there was a lot of missunderstanding involved.
and yes, i don`t like to copie others, thats why i always do a lot of experiments in sound design, i see this like botb.
so, sry for the trouble 
Most of the time when I find out how someone else did something, I’m simply just messing around trying different things I’ve never done before. I don’t subscribe to the notion of originality, as I see everyone’s creative work being simply a collection of influences coalescing, much like everything else. After I started seeing this, I began making music and art completely for my own enjoyment and no longer for the approval of others. Anymore the whole approval from others thing, really messes with my overall motivation & inspiration, so now I disregard it.
Sometimes I think people make tracks as genres in themselves, like a design waiting to be expanded upon. I see people doing this all of the time, and that’s good, because that’s what they want to do.
unsure if this question is for me in regards to the Loki tuts? I cannot answer it though…
it was for everyone in thia thread 