How To Master?

Hi Guys.

I’m sitting here with some tracks i would like to master. which leads me to some questions that i was hoping you might could help me with.

How do I maximize my song and still keep the dynamics in it ( I have tried with a maximizer but it just compress it all)

The thing is that I would like to make sure that the track is played at the fullest volume. No matter where I play it.
So really it’s just a question on how to get the highest volume without distorting and killing the dynamics.

What kind of mastering plug ins would you recommend (If you are referring to a bundle please be specific regarding exactly which one…)

And where would you put it (On the single tracks or on the master)

Regards… :ph34r:

Izotope Ozone is the best mastering VSTi I’ve used so far.

Before this I used T-Racks, but It’s an external program, and I like having everything inside Renoise, so that I can just load up the .xrns file and BOOM have everything I need in the track right there and then.

My Tip for you: Mixing and Compression.

Mix the tunes so that all the instruments play well together, don’t let the samples “fight” over frequencies.

And Compress it so that the loud parts are quiet and the quiet parts loud, but try to keep the dynamics, if you want this, try fast attack and fast release.

http://www.tweakheadz.com/mastering_your_audio.htm

Check that site out, it’s very explainatory (or however you spell that).

Good luck on your mastering!

thanks alot man, I will check it out=)
Izotope Ozone i have been wondering about that… so here go’s


I’ve seen the same type of post as this on other music forums and you usually get the ‘mastering is an arcane art that takes years of practice’ type answer. It’s good to see people here saying something a bit more straight foreward. What I’ve noticed is that whan I mix up my own tunes on my mp3 player with commercially done stuff I notice the commercial stuff has a ‘polished sheen’ to it. I can’t work out how this is done? I use Ozone and the PSP vintage warmer for instance but I’ve no idea which one should be in front of the other.

I’ve got a dog; she usually walks out of the room if the higher frequencies get too much, that’s my EQuing done anyway!

T-Racks are also available as VST plugins, but it seems the last time you used T-Racks was probably ages ago…

http://www.t-racks.com/Main.html?prod_TR_Plug

Not a personal fan of Ozone, find it to be a bit hack and slash.

If you need any material mastered please send me a PM. I take it quite seriously.

Hey Foo?, can you recommend any good mastering vst’s?

Or just tell me what you do when you master… if you have a routine that is.

EDIT: While we’re at it, I came across this at a review of Ozone on the web:

SIDEBAR: Mastering is an advanced aspect of audio recording. Whether or not you try the Ozone3 plug-in, do yourself a favor and visit their site for a free Ozone Mastering Guide. It’s probably one of the best introductions to mastering I have ever read.

For mastering, I would recommend this particular plug from Brainworx:

Download the fully functional demo (14 days) and try it out.

Of course, you actually need more than just this plug for full mastering, but this is one of the tools to consider for a mastering toolbox.

But izotope’s Ozone3 is maybe the best “all in one” mastering package out there right now that doesn’t cost a fortune.

What the big guy above said.

Mastering plug-ins are a joke, unless you use them to get some pump on a dubplate/pre-mastered wav you have just made.

Leave the mastering to the mastering engineers.

See Production Tips Thread:

https://forum.renoise.com/t/production-tips/20284

Bigging up yourself there…

Your tips are nothing to do with Mastering. They are Mixdown tips at best, and based on generalizations as they stand.

Mixdowns are to be done by the artist if they don’t want to / cant afford to send their unmixed track to a mixing engineer.

The mixing engineer will send the mixed track to the mastering engineer who will master it.

Why people think they can do this in their f****ing bedroom, I will never know (well, I do know, but it would be cruel to say)

Wow, thanks for the diss.

Back in the day they used to tell me you would never be able to make music on a computer. I had to go pay some guy with a 100 thousand dollar hybrid digital/analog console and 100 faders, and his room of toys. Everyone thought it was preposterous that a computer could replace their gear and studios that cost more than a house, and took as much room as one in real-estate space. No way any of this could ever be done on a laptop and a few boxes.

SUPRISE!

Obviously, someone trained to master is going to be better than someone who isn’t. If you have the resources, a professional will save you time and gain you some credibility. But supporting the established way because of the mysterious wizard hierarchy of mystical mixing alchemists because, hey, all these people have vested interests in preserving their jobs, so you can’t do it yourself, so just don’t. F****ing bullshit.

DO IT YOURSELF.

There’s no shame in trying. So what if you fail?

But yeah, now I remember why I hate music communities, egos and assholes answering questions with indignant rants as if what they do is pandora’s box, all wanting to get paid.

Man, I f****ing love the reply above mine.

Props.

But yeah, try to DIY approach if you want. I use Izotope Ozone and I wouldn’t call myself good at mastering at all, but it gets the job done well enough to where I like doing it myself.

word! diy, yeah :yeah:

Foo?'s current evolving setup:

  • DDMF LP10 (reductive EQ)
  • DSPFX Aural Activator (additive mid/high exciter)
  • PSP Vintage Warmer (hard limiter and knee)
  • DFX rms-buddy (monitoring)
  • SSL X-ISM (monitoring)

…And I’m currently involved with some experiments of mastering digital audio directly to high definition 2-track mastering tape using a TASCAM BR-20T. The results off tape are absolutely astounding, and much better than worrying about jitter with downsampling.

Digital Audio can only be so good. Truck loads of bedroom producers are doing ace stuff with it. It just has a limit to it. If anyone wants the ‘best of the best’ from audio it has to be done from start to finish COMPLETELY analogue - and probably using good tube gear too. If that seems odd to anyone reading that, do your own research and make up your own mind.

I’ve been doing semi-professional mastering from my own studio for a little bit now. Every client is different. Some want it done for no money, so want this or that done. Some mixes are what I’d call terrible. But most of the time I keep that to myself - I’m trying to be professional, and it’s a provided service, not a lecture. Some people like sludge, so give it to them ;)

There are so many other issues that come into it other than plugins. 33% mix quality + 33% gear/studio quality (including speakers/acoustics) + 33% engineer quality.

Conner has a great point about doing things yourself. You learn a lot and it gets your head deep into fascinating places with audio. I’d only go down the path of seeking professional help if your MUSICAL IDEAS (i.e. songs) are worth it. If you’ve written some amazing alt pop that’s going to move a lot of people - then yes get it treated like it’s precious material. But you’ve just gone and done some sludgey breakcore the better to have fun with yourself.

Hmm, I don’t want to seem pretentious at all about it and I’m really keen to help people. Just ask. I tend to be quite geeky about the subject area, and would much rather talk to someone about downsampling jitter for 4 hours than talk about football or some shit. :D

Hey Gul, try out endorphin. A relatively simple, yet very nice sounding freebie. I can recommend all the plugins on that site. I use BLOCKFISH all the time.

I don’t care about mastering anymore. The music is just mixed up with EQing and then pumped through Izotope. I don’t make money with my tracks and NO ONE dissed me because of the bad soundquality but because of the weak melody or whatever.

Mastering comes to my mind, if I really try to publish my songs for a commercial reason and then I know I have to get a studio-engineer to do it for me. Guess what? Bands need studio-places, too ;)

Imo the song is more important than mastering.

My advice is don’t get too caught in to the illusion of technical perfection.

Though some multiband compression can help keep the dynamics while the mix gets still compressed.

amen, not the break