^^^ 
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A bad mix can’t be sell
A good mix is a sort of “respect” toward the listeners
Well, yes, it’s about music, not about mixing. 
And your mixes already sound as good as your music. You’re very talented in composing, you should finish your tracks and release them. Your music should be heard! It won’t be heard if you don’t finish your tracks, if you “mess around” with mixes for years (we all now it will never be perfect, there’s always something to complain about) and if you keep being the hidden man, whether here in this forum or on Soundcloud or elsewhere. I really appreciate your contributions and if you’re planning to release an album one day I would like to be the first customer. Your Synthwave stuff is great! And what I’ve heard so far in other styles it’s also cool. Keep 'em coming!
Exactly! You can’t make gold out of shit!
Even “bad” mixes can be sold easily if the music is great, there are millions of examples. The one I would like to mention at this point is Metallica. Their first albums were absolutely bad in terms of mix and master, but we all know that this fact didn’t stop them becoming one of the greatest Metal bands of all time, they’re icons in many ways and not to mention very successful.
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Time has changed…we are in 2021
Seriously
A good composer with good mixing skill and hardwork can become rich
even if he is poor
I think
This is one of the power of music
I never listen to bad mixed tracks
I listen to oldschool Norwegian black metal at times and the production quality is sometimes horrible which makes it so good.
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True Underground sound…sometime
rarely
.
Another example of awesome music with ‘bad’ mix
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Narrow mix
but crystal clear sound
Is this good or bad production ? By the way I love this song and the way all sounds wrong in a way
Not balanced
difficult to do a mastering on it I think
Yes, and on the other hand nowadays music is overcompressed and often sounds like crap, because some sort of “professional producers” apparently think the louder the better or whatever. There are no more dynamics, just crap. It’s even that worse that I thought about getting my money back after buying some music. An example for a shitty production is nearly everything from Lana del Rey, especially the album “Paradise”. The music is great, but I couldn’t listen to the album on CD (especially not on headphones) because the production is crap. Never heard something worse, compared to this the first Metaliica album is pure gold production wise! I clearly prefer amateur mixes over professional overcompressed crap.
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Yes
I must admit that with overcompressed channels,precision say goodbye
classical music is never compressed
Many compressors,many leveling amplifiers…many uses
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Yes this is annoying when all is always at “max”. In metal there is the same problem. I have real trouble listening to the recents anaal nathrak albums for example, it gives me headache. The old ones, no issues. All the old death albums also. I don’t understand why there need to be a multi band compressor set on max settings on all recent releases.
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I never use multiband compressor
maybe one day on rhythm
Everything started with the loudness war. Have a look at this GiF showing the mastering progression of the Beatles song “Something” from the year 1983 to the year 2000:
And that’s not the end of the line, today it’s even worse.
The problem is not the maxed volume, the problem is the combination of maxed volume, too much clipping/limiting and compression. The result is a completely flat sound without any dynamics. And the worst I’ve heard so far is Lana Del Rey. No Bass, no depth, nothing except flatness. In a way it kinda sounds like a kitchen radio with clipping.
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your files are “corrupted”
Not logic that the peaks doesn’t hit the ceil
seriously
Normalize the files before comparating them
without it,“log” progression make things impossibe to compare
His GIF just illustrate that loudness of mastering has gone from not even being normalized in 1983 to squashed in 2000 and as we know it’s become a flat sausage today, sure you could normalize the pre-2000 masters and get the same sound but that’s not the point, the story is louder and louder into oblivion.
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