I would like to hear your music made with Renoise or other Daws

True Underground sound…sometime
rarely

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Another example of awesome music with ‘bad’ mix

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Narrow mix
but crystal clear sound

Is this good or bad production ? By the way I love this song and the way all sounds wrong in a way

Not balanced
difficult to do a mastering on it I think

Yes, and on the other hand nowadays music is overcompressed and often sounds like crap, because some sort of “professional producers” apparently think the louder the better or whatever. There are no more dynamics, just crap. It’s even that worse that I thought about getting my money back after buying some music. An example for a shitty production is nearly everything from Lana del Rey, especially the album “Paradise”. The music is great, but I couldn’t listen to the album on CD (especially not on headphones) because the production is crap. Never heard something worse, compared to this the first Metaliica album is pure gold production wise! I clearly prefer amateur mixes over professional overcompressed crap.

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Yes
I must admit that with overcompressed channels,precision say goodbye

classical music is never compressed

Many compressors,many leveling amplifiers…many uses

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Yes this is annoying when all is always at “max”. In metal there is the same problem. I have real trouble listening to the recents anaal nathrak albums for example, it gives me headache. The old ones, no issues. All the old death albums also. I don’t understand why there need to be a multi band compressor set on max settings on all recent releases.

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I never use multiband compressor

maybe one day on rhythm

Everything started with the loudness war. Have a look at this GiF showing the mastering progression of the Beatles song “Something” from the year 1983 to the year 2000:

And that’s not the end of the line, today it’s even worse.
The problem is not the maxed volume, the problem is the combination of maxed volume, too much clipping/limiting and compression. The result is a completely flat sound without any dynamics. And the worst I’ve heard so far is Lana Del Rey. No Bass, no depth, nothing except flatness. In a way it kinda sounds like a kitchen radio with clipping.

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your files are “corrupted”

Not logic that the peaks doesn’t hit the ceil

seriously

Normalize the files before comparating them

without it,“log” progression make things impossibe to compare

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His GIF just illustrate that loudness of mastering has gone from not even being normalized in 1983 to squashed in 2000 and as we know it’s become a flat sausage today, sure you could normalize the pre-2000 masters and get the same sound but that’s not the point, the story is louder and louder into oblivion.

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:-1:‍‍
Learn mathematics

Is it a joke from Renoise team?

We approach April 1st…:joy:

You have a logarithmic processor in your brain
And for exponential

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Are you a loudness war denier or what are you on about?

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Thanks for the kind words. Actually I already had soundcloud and bandcamp accounts and also had quite a bunch of followers and listenings. But one day I decided to completly delete my accounts. Since some tracks were good, but also a lot of it were not well mixed. So it was a inconsistent mess. Maybe that was a bad idea to delete it, but I was tired of looking for visitors, uploading stuff etc. Next time I will only do a bandcamp account. Later I restored that sc account at least, because I also deleted all my kvr osc competition songs - man, that was a stupid action should have deleted all non compo songs instead. So all my kvr osc ranking and visitors are lost, too. :joy: The recreated account only has those kvr osc songs, but barely any visitors anymore, since all tracks got deleted from kvr osc playlists, too. It’s a bit sad, if you are not listened to because nobody finds you anymore. But that’s what I mean, you hunt for visitor numbers, I don’t like that obession for attention, it’s a lot of marketing, and I hate it, tbh.

P.S: Here an example how you can actually “ruin” your bandname’s impression with a bad mix: For my past accounts I uploaded songs with a really shitty mix. Later I updated those songs with a better mix. But there are those “artist rippers” - people who buy the song one time (or even rip it) and then publish it on their youtube channel. Sometimes not even giving you a backlink in the description. This happened to me so often, so youtube now is flooded with shitty mixes by me … :face_with_raised_eyebrow: You could then to “fight” against that by uploading yourself a lot, crosslinking, marketing. In the end it is better to publish only well produced songs, in final state. At least this is my experience.

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