[idea] Move song up or down X amount of pattern lines

Renoise Tool Development
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Oy,

Reworking .mid files in Renoise I have come across a problem where songs don’t start at line 0 in the pattern editor, but for example at line 16. The songs are divided up in 64 length patterns, but where you’d expect a chorus or verse to begin on pattern start, you have 16 lines of the last section. It’s workable, but a lill irritating :slight_smile: .

I’m looking for a tool, sort a like rotate pattern tool (<- which can cycle a patterns worth of information ( https://www.renoise.com/tools/rotate-pattern )), but now for a songs worth of content! Enabling to shift backwards (or forwards) everything X amount of steps, making it easier to arrange.

Right now manually using the rotate pattern tool on every pattern takes a lot of time, plus you have to manually cut the missing lines from the next pattern back into the previous.

Can above tool be hacked to widen the scope? I understand processing a lot of data will take long for any tool. I have patience :sunglasses: .

Grts,

R

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In the advanced editor, you can use the nudge feature with the range set to “whole song”.

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Boom! Never thought of that, excellent!

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Me neither, actually :smiley:

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quick test, getting weird results where after shifting content seems lost, perhaps am doing it wrong, will investigate further.

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Oh dang. It doesn’t work over pattern boundaries. Only per pattern, which doesn’t make much sense.

edit: of course you can join/split patterns for doing this, but there is the 512 line limitation which might be a hindrance.

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Oh snap that is the best!

I often will improvise over the length of several patterns, but for all sorts of reasons my phrases and melodies and whatnot do not always start at the top of a pattern, and often spill over into the next pattern. I would then resort to a lot of cut-n-paste.

I like the rotate approach better.

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indeed, doesn’t work as expected :frowning: . The join / splitting alternative isn’t really a workable option for the amount of patterns and songs. I guess I’ll have to simply live with shifted songs until a tool pops up or song-wide nudge function gets ‘fixed’.

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This is not fixed due conceptual indecision. What happens, if a pattern is repeated? Personally, I would then create a new copy first and then go on with moving. But it seems to me that Taktik never decided here.

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Indeed. If a pattern is reused at different places in a sequence. What will be put on top of it, when nudging the song downwards? And will a pattern used consecutively in the sequence, be nudged twice?

Tool could put up a warning… “Song sequence is not linear, proceed?”.

The most cumbersome thing about making a tool it is to re-implement the destructive ‘voice’ handling of the native nudge feature. Just having it nudge full lines is 10x simpler.