Integrating Renoise into other DAW/Workflow

JACK allows to sync :slight_smile: I can run Bitwig and Renoise and sync them up with JACK pretty successfully. Thereā€™s a bit of setup to be done in Bitwig, but it works. I donā€™t know if that type of setup is needed to sync up Renoise with other DAWs though.

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Thanks for the reply. Screen shots at your convenience would be greatly appreciated and helpful. I will review tomorrow, when back in the studio.

Thank you

Tried for a bit today to get it working on my Win 10 DAW. I reinstalled Renoise and I am following your comments. No matter what I do I can not get any rewire devices in Bidule standalone, and the Rewire config option in Bidule is greyed out.

Tried running both apps as administator and I can see Renoise is looking for a rewire master and one is not running. Trying to find useful documentation on PB, is a challenge.

Here is the renoise log:

Renoise as administrator

ReWire Slave: ReWire engine link (Local Machine) is already installed and up to dateā€¦
ReWire Slave: ReWire engine link (Current User) is already installed and up to dateā€¦
ReWire Slave: ReWire Panel was initializedā€¦
ReWire Slave: ReWire Slave mode failed to init (no master is running)ā€¦

Thank you, for your help. I will plug away at it this week.

Hereā€™s a screenshot of my bidule patch that I use in ableton and nuendo, this has been part of my templates for years now.

However I updated bidule recently and all my rewire connections in it immediately broke, similar to what you are describing. When I loaded this patch up in the last version, the rewire renoise object loaded but was marked as disabled and rewire was greyed out. I promptly downgraded to a previous installer and it worked again.

Might be worth asking around on the bidule forums.

Also, youā€™ll know if itā€™s working. As soon as you load renoise into bidule, it automatically starts up Renoise for you in rewire slave mode

What version # are you running? VST3 or VST2?

Audio question -
I ran all renoise channels thru discreet buses (including the master bus) into channels in logic and recorded 14 minute jams of a 64beat loopā€¦

The audio in logic is going to be have phase problems and comb filtering and loss of frequencies etc, right? It wonā€™t be natural due to the original tracks being mixed in with the master channel.

Master channel has all the send fx, thatā€™s why itā€™s crucial. But otherwise seldom duplicates the audio in a separate track

For those interested.

Plogue Bidule 0.9777 allows rewire by default, version >= 0.9782 disabled rewire by default per changelog. I have confirmed this via available downloads.

My challenge is that I want and need to run Bidule in VST3 not VST2. Due to VST2 is end of life and will be removed from Nuendo sometime in the future. All projects that I work on will not use VST2 for this reason. Now I may try Bidule VST3 hosting redux (VST2) or Blue Cat connector/patchwork doing the same. My preference would be Bidule VST3 using rewire to Renoise directly for the previous posterā€™s workflow which matches my desired approach.

I am waiting for approval in Bidule forum, to see if there is a way to enable rewire in the current version. I can not find anything in the documentation or online searching and forum until being approved is completely useless when searching.

EDIT: I created this thread in the Bidule forum: Enabling rewire (MAC and PC) in version 0.9785 Standalone and VST3

Version 0.9782 (November 1st, 2022)

Discrete processing and bidules are now also available in the non-P64 version
Fixed VST3 version handling of MIDI Note Off velocity
macOS : file history implementation redone, you will lose your saved history
Preferences dialog redone using new UI
ReWire is now off/disabled by default

0.9785 Log: Edited for brevity

04402484096:492000449612:Factory init RewireDeviceFactory

04402484096:492023142392:closing RewireManagerā€¦
I:140704402484096:492023142485:ReWireManager::close() in
I:140704402484096:492023142524:ReWireManager::close() out

04402484096:493102782577:closing RewireManagerā€¦
I:140704402484096:493102782591:ReWireManager::close() in
I:140704402484096:493102782601:ReWireManager::close() out

0.9777 Log: Edited for brevity

I:140704402484096:491913484057:ReWireManager::init() in
I:140704402484096:491913484066:ReWireManager Starting ReWire!
I:140704402484096:491913498467:Enumeration ReWire Devices:
I:140704402484096:491913498499:-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I:140704402484096:491913498505:Name:Plogue Bidule Device
I:140704402484096:491913498510:Channels:16
I:140704402484096:491913498515:-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I:140704402484096:491913498519:Name:REAPER
I:140704402484096:491913498524:Channels:32
I:140704402484096:491913498528:-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I:140704402484096:491913498532:Name:Renoise
I:140704402484096:491913498540:Channels:64
I:140704402484096:491913498555:ReWireManager::init() out

I:140704402484096:491913552713:Factory init RewireDeviceFactory

I:140704402484096:491987614738:closing RewireManagerā€¦
I:140704402484096:491987614746:ReWireManager::close() in
I:140704402484096:491987614760:ReWire MixerClosing done1
I:140704402484096:491987627489:ReWireManager::close() out

For anyone interested in using Bidule to rewire Renoise into another app. Rewire has been deprecated in Bidule due to rewire as a protocol being end of life. See above comment for the version where it was deprecated.