Keith303 - Stuck In The Beehive (+video)

hey synchro… i have to admit i am not quite sure if i understood you right, but are you saying that if you download the file i linked above an xml file will pop up on your computer?
no matter what, the link does however point to a .zip file which, when unpacked, will uncover an .xrns file that is perfectly playable on any system renoise 2.0 is runnable on.

only reason for the confusion i can currently think of is that you might have .xrns files associated with a compression utility that will unpack the .xrns to .xml + a sampledata folder?

yep, sdcompo is monthly.

keith, you already know I’ve listened to this and loved it. I can’t run the xrns though - too processor intensive for me. :(

crytek, would be cool if you’d join the fun !
sonicade (he’s running the compo) is currently on vacation, so it might take until he returns for the next round to start.
but usually it’s always 3 weeks of tracking followed by 1 week of voting and commenting, whereas voting (picking a top5) is mandatory to get validated for the final results.

cag, sorry to hear that you’re unable to run it… i have three PCs here to test it on and the slowest one is a two year old AMD dualcore with 2ghz which i purchased for 45 EUR back then… even when telling renoise to only utilize one core, the CPU load will not exceed 25%.

no chance for a hardware upgrade? apart from the unablility of playing this tune, i think you wouldn’t regret it in general.

for some reason on my system, something odd happened when i downloaded that particular file from that particular site.

at first, it looked okay and it was just an ordinary .zip archive like any other. but when i unzipped it, what i got was an extra folder with the name of the track. and inside that folder was a file called “song.xml” and a folder called “sampledata”.

usually, a download like this would just come out as a regular .xrns file on my machine.

oh well, at least i learned what to do if i encounter just those two elements of a renoise file and how to put them back together again so that renoise will play them. sorry for the confusion.

The video is really cool.

I was curious to check out the track so I downloaded the XRNS and jumped into Renoise, but when I tried to load the song, I encountered a strange problem. During the loading process, I can see Renoise’s status message reporting various things like it’s loading the instruments, samples, patterns, etc., but then it suddenly gets stuck on “Activating the new song…” and uses almost all my CPU power, causing Windows to become very sluggish and unresponsive. After waiting for a minute or two, I was forced to manually end-task Renoise.

Now, my system isn’t exactly amazing. I’m still using a laptop I bought in 2003, which has a 1Ghz Centrino M processor, with 1Gb of memory, running Windows XP Professionl SP3. It’s definitely not a powerful workstation, but it handles my daily tasks ok, and I can manage to do a bit of Renoisering if I don’t use too many VSTs. I’ve never had this kind of problem before with simply loading a song, even with some fairly large and complex songs. I might not be able to play them back in realtime, but at least they load and then I can render them.

So… I wonder what could be happening here? Is your track just too damn uber-l33t for my crappy little lappy? Maybe it’s a bug in Renoise?

PS: Here’s my log file: http://illformed.org/temp/Log.txt

.

It took me 4 minutes to open the song, then Renoise complains that it’s using too much CPU (and the song hasn’t even started yet).

Eventually I can play the song if I manually scrub past the first part.

In the YouTube video it says it’s at 6%… Me it’s constantly over 75%.

I think Keith is just rocking some pretty serious godlike CPU power, and he lost touch with what meere mortals use. :)

:o :blink: :huh:

I guess I just need to be waaaay more patient then. I’ve never known a song to take anything close to that amount of time to load, so to me it really seemed like Renoise had frozen or something.

Ah well.

it took 15 seconds to load on my old G5 (although it made the water cooled pump start and my CPU went up to 60% during the load)

it plays it perfectly and sounds just like the video.

i am learning many more things about renoise and tracking from this file.

thanks for allowing us to view your handy work mr. 303!

:walkman:

seriously fantastic… how you do this is beyond me. love the tune, love the technique! amazing…
see you at breakpoint?

:)

Awesome tune!
And that’s why I love renoise for sample work. I can’t imagine any other software, with which you could do so much cool stuff with samples so easily.

The song loaded and played fine on my crappy laptop. It was at high CPU usage, but nevertheless it works fine.

I have seen the problem of renoise getting stuck in “Activating the song” before, I think it is some sort of bug as it has happened to me couple of times with completely random songs.

Thank you for stating the painfully obvious :P

Yes, I definitely need to upgrade soon, haha. In fact I used to have a very powerful desktop machine, but a couple of years ago I moved countries yet again, and was simply too tired to handle the process of shipping all my belongings, so I got rid of almost everything. These days I am keeping things quite minimal, and this trusty old laptop has treated me very well over the years, it just can’t handle anything heavy, the poor old thing!

I like this track a lot too, so here’s my remix, enjoy!

Keith303 - stuck in the beehive (danoise lazy edit) (mp3, 320kbps)

Yes, I’m pretty lazy, so it’s more of an extended edit actually. It comes home at 14:15, much longer than the original. But then, he decided that he had to fit two songs in one :-))

i’m totally game!
recently noticed you also registered on the breakpoint site already. immediately put a smile on my face :)
and thanks for the listen, glad i could catch your attention. too bad our little mailing project stalled so quickly… but that said, i guess can’t deny my guilt. :confused:

absolutely signing that. thanks for the feedback fella!

yes. the single line pattern is the major CPU sucker. bug or not: the hardware of people having trouble with playing back the tune is what most people would call “excel compatible”, if at all.
and just for comparison reasons: on the PC i wrote the tune on, the CPU load won’t go beyond 9.5% with EIST enabled. with disabled “intel speedstep” it won’t exceed 6.0%. makes me wonder what nostalgic hardware is still tortured with renoise nowadays.

@danoise
great interpretation. was definately an interesting listen. i like the dubby feel you gave the track. thanks!

:wub:

Remaking a K303 track is like being the kid at the candy store. So much to chose from!

Edit: I just noticed a stuck note in the recording. I’ll update the link.

Excellent.

Also really nice video, it makes me start renoise :)

Splendid work as usual. Also the video is a nice bonus, very nice presentation.

klaus, would you be a darling and get a bottle of jaegermeister for me? i will give you euro upon delivery… are you gonna be in for opening ceremony? if you are… mail me your cell#.

cheers
klaus

thanks for the kind words danoise, cie & alex!
danoise, would you mind me adding your remix alongside my original version to my homesite when i update it?
thanks again for your interpretation. definately liking it!

klaus, a bottle of jägermeister… and that’s it? if there is anything else i can pick up, let me know. you can give me heaps of EURO when i arrive ;) , but don’t expect i’ll accept any for the booze.
i’m not sure when exactly i will hit the partyplace. i hope it’ll be before 21:00, but that depends on who’s gonna drive… me or my homie gilli g

cellno. is on its PM-way!