thanks for your appreciation gregj. i am glad people find this tip in any way useful.
A valid point, so I’d like to answer this.
Imagine some football team in a training camp. No matter if pro or amateur league. The trainers and players are exchanging/practicing some tips and tricks on the field. And at some point one of the players says “Hey, I found out its a good idea to use your foot to kick the ball.” or maybe “Kicking the ball works way better with some shoes.” or something similar. What ever. People who don’t know football might be thankful for something like this, because they need the knowledge to learn and play the game. But if you were one of his team mates on the field, would you consider this a tip or trick? Worth being told in a training lesson?
My point is, if people don’t know basic things, there’s nothing wrong with this at all. But it’s not “tips & tricks”. It’s just some missing basic knowledge. So, if rhowaldt’s advise is useful to you, I’m for sure not going to tell, it is not. But it actually only shows, you yet miss some basic knowledge of devices and of what they can do and can’t do. It’s simply about (not) knowing your tools. No matter if in Renoise, in Ableton, Cubase or what ever. It still doesn’t become a tip or trick because of that.
Back to your posting, what would have been the reaction of the footballer’s team mates? And would they have been outrageous to make fun of his advise? I’m fine, if you answer this question yourself only.
@Bit_Arts: in the matter of the football-players, you are right. it would be a very basic thing to say. however, the question here is whether your analogy is accurate. in other words: is this tip of the same level of simplicity as your football-example? i think it isn’t.
if my tip were ‘unmute your sound to hear something coming out of Renoise’, that would be on par with your football-analogy. if i were to think of a football-tip that fits in this analogy when using it with my Renoise-tip, i’d think ‘when you jump a second before you think an air-ball reaches you, you’ll hit it instead of going under it’ would be more accurate of an analogy.
what i find strange is that you first said you’d end the discussion, which you are now back to pick up. second (and this is even stranger to me), you replied to dblue by saying you’ve had similar experiences in the past here on the forums where people were disrespectful of tips you posted. this was because they thought they were not tips but basic knowledge that everyone should already have. you hated when this happened to you, and yet here you are, doing exactly the same. why would you do that?
This is a good tip.
I kept the football example simple to make the actual point obvious, not to make you look stupid. In fact it doesn’t matter, what example I use. It’s only about understanding the point. If you like this one better, let’s take usage of screw driver. It wouldn’t be a tip or trick to tell someone “turn the screw driver the other way around and the screw comes out”. That’s basic knowledge of a tool. A tip or trick would be, to tell someone to put some soap on the screw before driving it into wood, to make things easier.
I’ve ended my discussion with dblue. For the “similar experiences” it wasn’t about someone thinking my crap was too basic. If you’re really interested in, I guess you can still find the conversations from back then.
I’m telling my point only, because someone said “I don’t get the point…”. So what’s wrong with this? This is actually the most normal thing to happen in a working communication. And it’s not me trying to make this communication NOT work. I’m writing my ass off to communicate. If it was my intention, it’d be way easier for me to flame with a few sentences.
You feel like I’m still trying to belittle you? See, a few weeks ago I was in need to be able to enter decimal places for the BPM settings. I never before needed this and always used to click the arrows to adjust the BPM. So I posted even a feature request for this, and a few minutes later someone replied, this feature is already in for a whole while and you just have to enter the decimals by hand. I felt like a bloody noob too when I read this, but hell… Things like this happen, for you and for me. So what? Stop thinking this is anything against you. Beside from reading you here and there I don’t even know you.
Man, I’m getting really tired of explaining myself for each fart. Something’s def going wrong here.
The easiest thing to do here is to stop explaining yourself. 
Everybody made their points already and if you guys don’t stop things just get dirty. Why you guys are being so passionate about something what a stranger on some forum says? So here’s another basic tip - don’t give a sh*t.
@Bit_Arts: ok yeah, understand your point. and eeter is right as well, and i was thinking the same thing. let’s be done with this.
Just to help out a little bit: I think that maybe 50% of the admins might close this down quickly as a tip, or at least when it becomes flaming, like this… Ok, it’s been posted, but I agree with some that it’s not really a “pro tip” since it’s (at least) one of the presets 
(‘5ms static’). Hooking up a hydra etc, that’s tips. This, no.
Then simply stop, your point was clear quite a few messages ago.
The input is appreciated but the weight of the tip is not very high, lets stick to that idea, i think that everybody can agree with that, no further explanations required.
People would have to go really hayware here before we intervene too drastically. In generic we can go along fine here, these moments are very rare compared to the amount of topics and discussions generated.
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If I’m asked something, I use to answer. That’s pretty normal manners and behavior. If you had read the thread, you’d have seen my point most oviously wasn’t clear and now is. Everyone seemed to be fine.
The latest redundant posting is yours. But hey, keep the thread alive. Very intelligent moderating.
reading this thread is delaying my output yo.
This is a very intelligent post. ^^^^^
However I didn’t see any questions asked in vV-s post…
