Hello,
New around here.
I use Logic Pro and Omnisphere. I am trying to wrap my head around the differences between Renoise and Redux. I’ve read that basically Renoise is a DAW while Redux is a VST.
I have no problem getting both. If my main DAW is Logic, would I really have a need for Renoise?
Thanks.
Greg
Pretty much that, Redux is the sampler component of Renoise the DAW-like tracker.
Actually I’ve no experience with Redux, but as it is a plugin maybe get it first. Nice part of trackers is anyway the low-level approach to sampling and you get exactly that with Redux. Renoise is a tool for composing with same low-level approach, it’s very fast for some things and slower for others - good for shuffling workflow around at least.
I use Logic Pro and Omnisphere. I am trying to wrap my head around the differences between Renoise and Redux. I’ve read that basically Renoise is a DAW while Redux is a VST.
I have no problem getting both. If my main DAW is Logic, would I really have a need for Renoise?
Basically Renoise, and most trackers, are like a DAW that are built primarily around their samplers. Redux is just that sampler offered as a separate thing for use in other VST hosts such as Logic.
You don’t need Renoise but you might want it. Logic is a capable DAW and you can pretty much do the same stuff in any of them, it’s just a matter of preference. Once you have one good DAW you really don’t -need-. another one. But having something else can be fun or bring out different sides of your creativity. Renoise is really different from mainstream DAWs because of it’s old school tracker interface, so you’d have to give it a try to say for sure, you might love it, you might find it completely alien and unusable. IIRC the only demo restriction is no wav export, so it’s easy to get a feel for it before buying.
Renoise/Redux is a bit like havingKontakt/Kontakt player. I also work a lot in other hosts, but the unique and cool thing about Redux IMO is the phrases andI finditeasier to build phrases content from within Renoise.For such low prices, just grab both products - but demo them first.Observe that you can always render stuff from Renoise to audio files if you want to post-process them in Logic.Also observe the possibility ofrunning Renoise through ReWireeither as master or as slave.
I would say give Renoise a try rewired into logic as well. I find the full tracker interface is a bit more immediate than just having phrases. i also like the way I can build an arrangement in Renoise while rewired. A bit more convenient to me than triggering phrases with midi clips.
I’ve moved from logic to renoise, found renoise has a much quicker workflow and some excellent features
Logic is better if you are doing heavy complex melodic work in my opinion, as it’s a lot easier with the piano roll
Redux would be great for triggering drums and samples alongside your melodies in logic, phrases could be triggered from the redux instrument via one midi note etc i think (i don’t have redux)
would I really have a need for Renoise?
you need to ask yourself that not us
Renoise is bad for recording - if you do that a lot, then Logic is most likely better. For writing, VSTs - depends on how much will you enjoy tracker way of doing things. Renoise has a powerful sampler and so does Redux which is basically “Renoise as a plugin minus VSTs”.
With Redux you can combine both worlds - use Logic to record/write and Redux as an excellent sampler / effect hub. Also, Redux has tracker editor bulit in that can be used to program patterns for samples that are loaded in it.
If you are happy with Logic, I would suggest trying out Redux. As far as I understand, it was targeted at people just like you.
Depends, are you an old tracker user? If so you might love renoise because it works in the same way. If not I’d just go with Redux and your normal setup.
Renoise is it, although I ended up getting both.
I wanted something that would trigger multiple instruments and view all activity in one place. Renoise does exactly that (and much more). Took some getting used to but I like the tracker vs the piano roll. Had a nice groove going in < 30 minutes.
Where has this program been all my life?
Thanks for your help guys.
Greg
Renoise Rewire surpasses Redux imo!
I’m also a Logic Pro user, but have also used Renoise for over 10 years.
I bought Redux when it came out earlier this year as well, but just recently discovered that Renoise Rewire to Logic is a bit smoother for my particular workflow as I want to track stuff side by side with Logic. Of some reason, when the Redux window is active, the spacebar doesn’t playback Logic + Redux. Moreover, better pattern overview, real-time recording, plug-in grabber and so forth. You get more for the money as I see it.
I agree. I haven’t figured out the advantage with Redux, but I haven’t given it much time. I guess it all depends on your needs.
I managed to get Rewire setup with little fuss. It’s handy that Renoise can host instruments (like Omnisphere), but I wanted to keep those hosted in Logic and triggered by Renoise. I’m not sure if there is any advantage to this other than keeping Logic Pro (my warm blanket) in the workflow. Either way it seems to work well.