Long, Non-Metalic Reverb With Renoise Native Effects

Tips & Tricks
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Is it possible to get a nice, long (7-10 seconds), dreamy, non-metalic reverb out of the native renoise effects? If so, please share your secret :walkman:

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It sure is.
It will not be like Lexicon reverbs, but you sure can tweak pitchmodulated reverb tails that will make it sound much more transparent for very long reverbs.
The chorus is your friend.
The easiest way is to add chorus-delays behind the mpreverb.
Some tips:

  • Use the chorus for slow pitchmodulation and delay (about 0.75 rate,10% depth, -75%feedback, 350ms delay, 50% wed/dry.
  • For such long reverbs I would also use a bandpass in the chorus filter, say about 75%. This will make sure it will sound more transparent.
  • to make the sound wider you can split the left right channel from the mpreverb into two separate send channels. Add a Stereo Expander device to each send and set Expand parameter to Mono, and choose Left or Right Mono Mix for each channel. Now add a chorus with the settings as described above for each channel. Try slightly different setting for each chorus.
    Also add a gainer and invert one of the channels. Then experiment with the phase setting for each chorus.
  • To give everything a final touch add a set of two LFOs to some parameters (you add two LFO so LFO1 is randomizing the frequency of LFO2, LFO2 is connected to a device parameter in the reverb chain).
    Good candidates for very tiny continuously randomization are, Duration of mpreverb, Low Cut of mpreverb, Rate or depth of each chorus device.
  • If you get any DC offset problems anywhere in the chain, then add a DC offset device and choose AutoDC.

Now the most difficult part is to fine-tune all this :)
You need to tweak very carefully the dry/wet for both the reverb and the chorus-delays.
Don’t give up. This is a quite well known ‘trick’ used the last 30 years.
Have fun.

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Will for sure play with this tonight. Anybody have a some saved dsp-chains doing this they’d like to share?

Oh, forgot the most important part: Thanks for your reply!!!

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totally giving this a blast. never happy with my reverbs…

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Wow, where have I been the last 30 years?
Thanks for clearing out that technique!

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Hmmm. This is something I came up with, is that something like that you mean? Any feedback more than welcome!

atte_long_reverb

I added two delays, a shorter one to make the longer one less obvious echo-ish…

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Newbie question: so if I have an mpreverb on a single track, how do I actually split the output into left and right channels? Can I just add a Send Device to one send track right after the Mpreverb and make sure Keep Source is selected, so the signal reaches a second Send Device right after the first?

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Thats correct.
If you want to pan the separate outputs in the send tracks you also need add a Stereo Expander Device, and set Expand parameter to Mono (slider all the way to the left), and choose left or right Mono Mix.

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Great, thanks for the tip!

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Yes, you are getting the idea.
It is of course limited how realistic you can make this as we can not get into the feedback loop of the reverb itself. But in a mix and especially for certain non percussive sources you can do very interesting things this way.

As said, left and right separation with individual reverbs/chorus might help. You can also split the source into two additional tracks using crossover Hipass/Lopass. Then set individual reverb and reverb length. You can make a few tracks with chorus/filter/delay to emulate early reflections.
Perhaps use Hydra Devices to label and make things easier to tweak everything.
I’ll try to make something here…