M-Audio Venom And Renoise...

Greetings.

I recently purchased an M-Audio Venom, but I’ve never been able to get it working properly with Renoise. I can use it as a controller, but I cannot get any audio from the machine into Renoise. Granted, this is the first time I’ve used a keyboard with onboard synths before, so this easily could all just be the result of my stupidity.

However, I’ve tried almost everything I can think of and I can get absolutely no audio from it whatsoever. M-Audio states that it can transmit both MIDI commands as well as audio via USB. I’ve tried setting the synth itself as the main soundcard/sound device. No audio. I’ve tried selecting EXT MIDI in the instrument settings tab of Renoise 2.7. I’ve tried both settings of Venom MIDI Synth Out and Venom MIDI Out, but no audio.

The Venom has its own VST, Vyzex. I originally assumed I could just open that within Renoise and control it all that way, but Renoise can’t open it. All the .dlls are simply pieces of the VST, there is no standalone.

Has anyone else been able to get the Venom fully working in Renoise? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

You need to use line-in device to get audio to Renoise. The synth indeed needs to be set as input sound card in configuration. MIDI is just a note data, it has nothing to do with audio streams.

What do you mean you can’t open the Vyzex VST? You copied the .dlls to right directory and renoise doesn’t list it in instrument/effect selection? What does it say in the log about it?

Correct. It just scans the .dlls, then nothing is listed. I’ll check the log when I get home from work tonight. Thank you for the help so far.

VSTPlugs: Searching for new VST plugins in ‘C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom’…

VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\InAMidi.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQBank.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQBasics.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQCntrl.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQConv.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQDBase.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQDrvLis.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQEdit.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQEditArray.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQEditBitmap.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQEditButton.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQEditCharStr.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQEditControl.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQEditCustom.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQEditGraph.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQEditKbdDisplay.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQEditKeyboard.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQEditKnob.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQEditLevel.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQEditMidiFilter.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQEditMultiBitmap.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQEditMultiToggle.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQEditNoteCounter.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQEditNumeric.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQEditPsiCraft.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQEditRange.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQEditSlider.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQEditSliderBitmap.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQEditSliderGraphic.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQEditString.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQEditSysXFilter.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQEditTab.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQEditText.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQEditTimer.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQEditToggle.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQEditTransparentBitmap.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQEditXYSlider.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQGenerl.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQGroup.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQL6T.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQLib.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQMon.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQMonGraphic.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQRemote.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQSeq.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQSyn.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQTips.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\MQView.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)
VstPlugs: Trying to instantiate C:\Program Files (x86)\Psicraft\M-Audio\Vyzex Venom\Win32\OtAMidi.dll
VstPlugs: Instantiate FAILED (DLL is no VST Plug)

Also, there’s two options for input by the M-Audio Venom…ASIO USB or Line 1/2. Obviously, ASIO USB should be the correct option for what I want to do, but M-Audio says the Line 1/2 should work via USB instead.

What do I need to set my instrument settings to after I change the soundcard to the correct input?

In your case, you are directing the VST plugin scan directly to the application’s folder and i doubt there will be any plugin DLL there.
That’s not the way to install a VST plugin, the setup usually offers to install the VST plugin at a certain location, in most cases they attempt to install it into some steinberg folder.
So when you install the Venom, you get a setup dialog moment where you get asked where to install the VST plugin DLL and it is coming up with a default folder (you should be able to manually adjust the location if necessary).

Maybe I’m wrong though,
are you sure that Vyzex Venom is a VST-plugin?? :huh:

from the M-Audio site:

I cannot find the description that Venom has a VST-plugin editor…